Hi Starts and Winch Launch notice

[chiadennis]

Aiyah, ...Just screw a tow hook on and bring your Crazy Banana to the PFW BBQ lah !

And have what???? grill banana or goreng pisang????

[Ghostfit]

And have what???? grill banana or goreng pisang????

... A few guys are bringing their Up/Hi Starts along and your 1.5M Banana is the right size (Dun think dirty !) for some fun just before the BBQ !

...I'm bringing my 2m Fling along !

[Cycross]

Sounds good, ...I'm keen to explore, when you free ?

Tony, pm me. We can arrange. I am also keen to progress on this

Jeremy

[hoppie]

When u guys doing the towing? Can i go see? I have a EZ Glider too. I really like to see how it's done. Ok to post location/time/date here. Thanks and hope to see u

[Ghostfit]

When u guys doing the towing? Can i go see? I have a EZ Glider too. I really like to see how it's done. Ok to post location/time/date here. Thanks and hope to see u

Great idea on a standardised format

PFW BBQ - SengKang Field
Time: From 5 pm onwards
Date: 12 April 2008
Suitable HLG: Up to 2.5M wingspan.

...please note that the field is directly opposite (across the TPE) from the regular PFW FF field.

Quickly put a towhook onto your EZ glider and bring it along !

Tony, pm me. We can arrange. I am also keen to progress on this

Jeremy

PM sent !

[Cycross]

Wah so close by? Rem to frequency check hor.

[ammo]

... A few guys are bringing their Up/Hi Starts along and your 1.5M Banana is the right size

Pwah! 1.5m banana.....

[ammo]

I hope you guys have extra histarts also, the current one i have can only handle up to a very light 2m... doubt it can do any better than that

[joe yap]

Mine is only good enough for lightweight 1.5metre HLGs. I'll bring it along as well.

[freeman]

Hi guys,

I am not very sure how big the plane my Hi-Start can tow. My launching System is:

Dynaflite Hi-Start (Heavy Duty).
It did not state the size of the plane, just the length and the thickness of the latex rubber tube.

30m of 3/16" latex rubber and 107m of nylon wire.

Based on the figures, can we tell the size of the plane it can tow? I am new in glider operations. Anyone can help?

Happy Flying...

[P4cm4n2000]

www.dynaflite.com

very simple, do a search using Google or Altavista if prefered,

http://www.dynaflite.com/accys/dyfp8301.html

Dynaflite Hi-Start (Heavy Duty) can launch sale plane 100" span and up, stated very clearly in their web site, see attached pic.

Definitely not for newbies...

ps: they even got addendum for Hi-Start

http://www.dynaflite.com/manuals/index.html

Dealers in Asia, NTC selling. Pls check with Chan....

http://www.dynaflite.com/dyfdist.html#sing

NTC Engineering Hobbies
150 South Bridge Road
#02-22 Fook Hai Building
Singapore, 0105
Telephone: +65 6534 1162
Fax: +65 6438 2252

Do anyone know any vendor bringing this Hi-Start cheaper than NTC ?

[Ghostfit]

I hope you guys have extra histarts also, the current one i have can only handle up to a very light 2m... doubt it can do any better than that

Don't worry bro ! ...that sunday after we tried your Up-Start, ...next day I went NTC and brought a Standard Up Start that'll pull a 2.5 M bird up !

...I think the problem is a lack of tow launch enabled gliders ...how about putting a tow hook onto your Talon ?

[Happy88]

Erm sorry just curious, what did you guys use to Tow the glider? a big Nitro plane?

[Ghostfit]

Erm sorry just curious, what did you guys use to Tow the glider? a big Nitro plane?

Nope, that is known as an Aerotow !

I'll try and explain the different type of launching HLG (according to my limited knowledge - please forgive if I'm wrong !)

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Unlike a powered model or Heli, where your lipo capacity usually determines the flight duration, a HLG or DLG depends on thermals to stay aloft.

How long you'll stay aloft will depends on 2 factors
1) Skills
2) Luck

The experienced and skillful glider pilot knows all the signs of a nearby thermal and will maximise the opportunity to gain lift.
As a begineer, you'll need lots of luck as it is common to Hi-start launch your glider for 20 times and only manage 2 flights of 10+ mins duration.

There are many ways to launch a TD glider and I list them here in terms of launch height, bear in mind that the higher you launch, the better chances you have of hitting a thermal.

1) Hand launch - All TD gliders can be hand launched, basically you chuck the glider upwards like throwing a javalin as hard as you can.
Expect height of 2 to 3 storeys high with this launch method. Generally, you would hand launch a TD glider for trimming prior to Hi-starting or Winching it.

2) Discus Launch - DLG are usually smaller (1-1.5M wingspans) they are purpose built with a "grip" on the wingtip and are launch in the same manner as throwing a discus.
In the hands of a good thrower, they can reach heights of up to 6 storeys high. DLGs are extremely popular in the USA (lots of Gorillas thrower there )

3) Up Start - Up Starts consists of 20' - 35' of rubber and 200' of towlines and they need a working field of about 300'.
They will bring your TD gliders up to 200' up.
Up Starts are usually suitable for the smaller TD gliders of 2m and below or 2.5m and below. They are the ideal system for small flying fields like PFW.

4) Hi Starts - Hi Starts consists of 100' - 200' of rubber and 200' - 500' of towlines, they'll need a working field of 800'.
They will launch TD gliders of up to 3m span to a height of 500'+
They need a big field like maybe woodlands avs 12.

5) Winch - Winching is a whole different ball game, they consist of a battery powered motor spinning a towline drum which has a braking system.
During launch, the "pull" can be varied by tapping the pedal which controls the juice going into the motor.
A full powered winch tow can easily snap a TD glider's wings in half unless it is properly re-inforced.

Gliding may not be for everyone, I enjoy it because of it's pure form, relying on the elements (wind, thermals) to soar.
I have also learn to appreciate the technical aspects of gliders, why this airfoil works better than that airfoil, how critical is a 3mm movement of the CG.
And when everything comes together well, there is an immense feeling of satisfaction when you see your glider floating along efficiently without losing height.
It is something I could never get with my powered models.

Cheers !
Tony

[Ghostfit]

Wah so close by? Rem to frequency check hor.

I don't think any of the regular bros will be at the regular (other) side !

...All will be at the BBQ side leow !


...Anyway, Sunday afternoon 2pm at Anchorvale confirmed ?