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    #46
    Originally posted by RC1054
    Anyway, we shall continue to support the indoor RC national competition events every year and strive to do break our own records each time. See you next year .... RC1054 sign-off.
    Thanks for your devotion and support ! ....as you've said you dun mind organiser participating, so I will practice and practice ....and no garrantee can beat you, but will surely give you a heck'o'fight !


    ....30min endurance ....here I come !
    Seriously running out of ...Storage space !

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      #47
      Just like any National Competition event, any Singapore citizen (somtime even PR) can participate. The objective is to find the best in the country. Hence organiser can and should participate to help maintain the standard.

      For non National Competiton like fun fly organise by a particular club normally the organiser themselves still particiapate just to have fun and show support but they are not entitle for any prices/awards.

      30min endurance .... Waah. Its going to be very difficult base on the existing rule (ROG) and venu (SYFC hanger). The venu do play a critical part. Ideally there should have no wind/tubulance at all. During the competition at SYFC hanger there was 3 big/strong fans blowing at fun power at one end of the hall creating turbulance that pressed down onto the planes. There are also big opening/gaps along the hanger doors. Depend on the turbulance condition in the hall the endurance result can be a few minutes different with exactly the same set-up.

      Hence to be consistance/fair the turbulance must be kept at the minimum at all time during the competition. So far I find Air Force school hall and ACS hall are one of the best. Maybe we can get enough fund next year to rent ACS hall. Federick (SHS) should be able to help to link us to the relevent authority.

      For endurance, my personal experience show that not neccessary the smallest or lightest or most expansive fly the longest.

      For spot landing, not neccessary planes that are much smaller that the 50pts box has the advantage. "Control at will" in small area and slow flying speed is more important.

      Looking forward to next year competition. Hope to see some innovative and original design.

      Cheers ...

      PS: I hope SYFC can consider extending official invitation to academy institue such as Poly, Universities where eager young engineer/scientist "want to be" can put their creative thinking into pratice and earn recognition among peers.

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        #48
        Originally posted by YZY
        Wad a terrible response from DaddyHobby! only a handful turned up and some w/o planes! all talk no action......
        From my point of view, if the organiser have hook up w the in charge of DH right from the start, i bet it could be a diff story.

        Mike

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          #49
          Originally posted by HZM
          From my point of view, if the organiser have hook up w the in charge of DH right from the start, i bet it could be a diff story.

          Mike

          SYFC is in the process of organizing indoor PYLON race; lets see any DH member take part if it comes true or NATO again. Will inform man in-charge this Sunday at SYFC during price presentation to contact you Mr. HZM

          If you can attend the price presentation in-person will be good.

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            #50
            Originally posted by puma

            SYFC is in the process of organizing indoor PYLON race; lets see any DH member take part if it comes true or NATO again. Will inform man in-charge this Sunday at SYFC during price presentation to contact you Mr. HZM

            If you can attend the price presentation in-person will be good.

            Thanks for the invitaton but I am not available weekend. I am available during weekdays most of the time. I will drop you a PM w my details. I would like to support national event and willingly to do my part in publicising and encouraging members to take part as much as possible.

            We should not term DH members not participating as NATO, many had their reason. Especially when u mentioned the coming up event is a indoor pylon race. How many here actually do such flying...I am not sure.

            If they are keen of organising an indoor heli obstacle course competition, I am pretty sure the response will be very positive.

            Bottom line is if the event is meaningful and participation of members here is fruittful, I do not see why we should not strongly help to promote it.

            Mike

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              #51
              Originally posted by HZM
              Bottom line is if the event is meaningful ...Mike
              Are you saying National Competition is not meaningful?
              Originally posted by HZM
              ... and participation of members here is fruittful,
              Are you saying "sure win" then join?

              I hope this is not NATO in the making ....

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                #52
                I see a flame war in the making.....I was not free for a long time to monitor such threads...I hope all these will stop...

                HZM is right about involving DH members from the start so we have ample time to prepare for such an event...

                Should the owner/admin of DH be contacted for help in this event some time ago I think it will turn out very differently.

                Many members are dying for some actions in the local hobby scene. If an event didn't have enough A&P involved from the beginning then I guess it will not be fair to say our members didn't actively participate.

                Even as I drive I find SYFC a little far to travel....I can understand why most members would not wanna travel that far for an event.

                I would say the results will be very different if SYFC organise with DH a mega meet of sorts.


                Sincerely waiting

                art
                TREX 500 ESP
                Futaba T12FGH

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by RC1054
                  Are you saying National Competition is not meaningful?

                  Are you saying "sure win" then join?

                  I hope this is not NATO in the making ....

                  We are all adults so let's look at this objectively and not take words out of context. The crux here is that since there are still many open space to fly outdoors very few of us fly indoors or have the exposure to appreciate the wonderful world of indoor flying to begin with. There is never an all-rounder winner in RC flying, some maybe experts in indoor flying but will panic when holding the tx of a 250km/h hotliner or pylon doing dive low pass, similarly some of us prefer speed demons to 3D or fly indoor or some prefer 1/4 size planes or some prefer nitro to electric. Only when there's enough exposure and publicity then will there be interest to join in competitions.

                  Mr. Lim since you are always the indoor champion perhaps you can impart your skills & knowledge to us. Winners will be forgotten when new winners take over but the teacher who imparts the skills will always be remembered. It will be very beneficial to Singapore RC community if you can start a thread on indoor RC to generate awareness and interests (eg types of indoor planes, where to buy or build indoor planes, where to join u for indoor flying etc)
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                    #54
                    So much been said, may I know how many DH member have taken part in any National Competition (outdoor / indoor; Helicopter or Airplane).

                    It is not easy to find indoor flying space even if we are willing to pay. Mr. Fredrick from SHS has help many times to book badmintons courts in ACS. ($15 per flying session of 2 Hrs per Flyer).

                    May I know how many DH members are willing to pay for indoor flying spaces if more flyers it can be cheaper?

                    Thank You Keng Peng for helping to set-up my DF interceptor, your help will be remembered.

                    Threads alone will not help very much. My DF interceptors never fly, until it has been check and adjust by Keng Peng.

                    Things like this cannot be talk or explain in any Threads. If any DH member is SERIOUS about indoor flying, willing to share and learn together than we have to fly together.

                    Lets take a poll who are the ones willing to pay for indoor flying spaces in ACS.

                    1) PUMA

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                      #55
                      Its a good start to see someone trying to promote indoor flying in Singapore. Just take whatever discussed as positive feedback so that we can progress from here to hope we can have more flyers for indoor competition next year. I am quite sure whoever had raised / took part in this discussion had a common objective - more flyers and exposure for indoor flying in Singapore, who knows we might be having our very own ETOC in near future Lets come together to work towards this common goal.

                      I had split PUMA thread into a fresh one at Airplane category. For those interested, please indicate. I suppose comments and feedbacks are welcome.



                      Some additional info:- I know someone is in the process of working out w relevant authority to have a permanent site for indoor flying, so lets keep our finger crossed that things will work out great. While such proposal and approval takes time, lets make do whatever we have. I will keep you guys posted in the event there are break through news.

                      Cheers

                      Mike

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                        #56
                        yes it is good to have constructive discussion
                        and thanks Mike for opening a new thread on this.

                        Instead of us rushing after work on weekdays to catch last light to fly our planes, we can fly indoor on weekdays where we do not worry about rain or night. And on weekends we can fly our speed demons Isn't that a win-win situation? And when we have enough indoor flyers and there's awareness and exposure we can then have some funfly competition
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                          #57
                          QUOTE=puma

                          Lets take a poll who are the ones willing to pay for indoor flying spaces in ACS.

                          1) PUMA
                          2) Ghostfit (Esp if can fly Heli also !)
                          Seriously running out of ...Storage space !

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