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    help with ESC/motor! smoking!

    Hi all!!

    noob needs some help here. i just finish setting up my "new" Trex HDE heli and was fooling around with it in my room throttling up to test the ESC/motor. was ok for a while then all of a sudden there is a screeching sound from the motor when i throttle, and abit of smoke came out. i stopped whateva i was doing, the ESC wasnt burned out as i could still enter programme mode etc.

    below is what i was using:

    ESC: Hobbywing pentium 30A
    Motor: 450TH
    Batts: 3S hextronic 1700mah 20c

    i followed the suggested programming and the motor timing is low with soft start. i havent tried to trhottle up since as the motor and ESC was REALLY hot to touch.

    anyone got any idea what is wrong? something wrong with my ESC setting or TX? really damn noobie with this RC heli stuff.

    Thx for any help in advance.

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    #2
    Originally posted by stickman
    Hi all!!

    noob needs some help here. i just finish setting up my "new" Trex HDE heli and was fooling around with it in my room throttling up to test the ESC/motor. was ok for a while then all of a sudden there is a screeching sound from the motor when i throttle, and abit of smoke came out. i stopped whateva i was doing, the ESC wasnt burned out as i could still enter programme mode etc.

    below is what i was using:

    ESC: Hobbywing pentium 30A
    Motor: 450TH
    Batts: 3S hextronic 1700mah 20c

    i followed the suggested programming and the motor timing is low with soft start. i havent tried to trhottle up since as the motor and ESC was REALLY hot to touch.

    anyone got any idea what is wrong? something wrong with my ESC setting or TX? really damn noobie with this RC heli stuff.

    Thx for any help in advance.

    Hm.. white smoke? try smelling the esc for burnt smell. Suspect maybe is esc liao. I burnt my too
    Walkera #4
    King2

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      #3
      What pinion are you using for your motor?
      If there was smoke, something went.



      Originally posted by stickman
      Hi all!!

      noob needs some help here. i just finish setting up my "new" Trex HDE heli and was fooling around with it in my room throttling up to test the ESC/motor. was ok for a while then all of a sudden there is a screeching sound from the motor when i throttle, and abit of smoke came out. i stopped whateva i was doing, the ESC wasnt burned out as i could still enter programme mode etc.

      below is what i was using:

      ESC: Hobbywing pentium 30A
      Motor: 450TH
      Batts: 3S hextronic 1700mah 20c

      i followed the suggested programming and the motor timing is low with soft start. i havent tried to trhottle up since as the motor and ESC was REALLY hot to touch.

      anyone got any idea what is wrong? something wrong with my ESC setting or TX? really damn noobie with this RC heli stuff.

      Thx for any help in advance.

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        #4
        Originally posted by stickman
        Hi all!!

        noob needs some help here. i just finish setting up my "new" Trex HDE heli and was fooling around with it in my room throttling up to test the ESC/motor. was ok for a while then all of a sudden there is a screeching sound from the motor when i throttle, and abit of smoke came out. i stopped whateva i was doing, the ESC wasnt burned out as i could still enter programme mode etc.

        below is what i was using:

        ESC: Hobbywing pentium 30A
        Motor: 450TH
        Batts: 3S hextronic 1700mah 20c

        i followed the suggested programming and the motor timing is low with soft start. i havent tried to trhottle up since as the motor and ESC was REALLY hot to touch.

        anyone got any idea what is wrong? something wrong with my ESC setting or TX? really damn noobie with this RC heli stuff.

        Thx for any help in advance.
        If you are only throttling up and not flying and your motor and ESC is really hot, something is wrong bro. Did you check the main gear and pinion gear meshing, are they too tight?
        [SIZE=1][B]Back to hovering!!![/B][/SIZE]

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          #5
          from what i heard the 450th is not really compatible with the hobbywing esc and i have heard of cases the motor burn, please check with other esc/motor.

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            #6
            did you spool up without the blades?

            no load on motor will kill both motor and esc
            TREX 500 ESP
            Futaba T12FGH

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              #7
              Hi Bro, is this the set you got it from me. If so, should not be a issues as I been using to fly my Trex for a period of time. All setting are set to heli mode. By chance, did you change any setting on the esc?

              Originally posted by stickman
              Hi all!!

              noob needs some help here. i just finish setting up my "new" Trex HDE heli and was fooling around with it in my room throttling up to test the ESC/motor. was ok for a while then all of a sudden there is a screeching sound from the motor when i throttle, and abit of smoke came out. i stopped whateva i was doing, the ESC wasnt burned out as i could still enter programme mode etc.

              below is what i was using:

              ESC: Hobbywing pentium 30A
              Motor: 450TH
              Batts: 3S hextronic 1700mah 20c

              i followed the suggested programming and the motor timing is low with soft start. i havent tried to trhottle up since as the motor and ESC was REALLY hot to touch.

              anyone got any idea what is wrong? something wrong with my ESC setting or TX? really damn noobie with this RC heli stuff.

              Thx for any help in advance.

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                #8
                Hi,

                I think ur ESC timing setting is wrong. As in the manual, for 450TH, timing is medium.

                Did u set the throttle range also???

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by stickman
                  Hi all!!

                  noob needs some help here. i just finish setting up my "new" Trex HDE heli and was fooling around with it in my room throttling up to test the ESC/motor. was ok for a while then all of a sudden there is a screeching sound from the motor when i throttle, and abit of smoke came out. i stopped whateva i was doing, the ESC wasnt burned out as i could still enter programme mode etc.

                  below is what i was using:

                  ESC: Hobbywing pentium 30A
                  Motor: 450TH
                  Batts: 3S hextronic 1700mah 20c
                  it seems the same with mine "screeching sound from the motor when i throttle" and the motor is not turning well...

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                    #10
                    alamak broe, i oso using this esc, everything programmed

                    soft start
                    med timing (tried high, motor not hot but esc darn, low=jerking)
                    lipo
                    lower power
                    low cut off
                    brake off
                    throttle range set

                    using wit elf hobby 4200kv 6pole outrunner + dn 2150 20c.

                    wat i notice is this esc gets hot, at times very hot to touch. izit cos of the 2a internal bec? im not sure if this 2a bec works wit my 3xhs55+1xhs50 cos i also notice my rudder hs50 gets a bit warm

                    so i scared to bring my heli high in case over heat or burn
                    Current Blink²:
                    Trex-600N: TTRL53H/H#523/CarbSmart/CYATGv3-Gview/JR770T
                    Beam-E4: SC-8/13T/SC-55A/LT2100T

                    History Blink²:
                    Belt-CP
                    Walkera-#60

                    "Every takeoff is optional. Every landing is mandatory."
                    Nate Waddoups

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Art
                      did you spool up without the blades?

                      no load on motor will kill both motor and esc
                      thanks! i always did that to test w/o knowin...
                      Current Blink²:
                      Trex-600N: TTRL53H/H#523/CarbSmart/CYATGv3-Gview/JR770T
                      Beam-E4: SC-8/13T/SC-55A/LT2100T

                      History Blink²:
                      Belt-CP
                      Walkera-#60

                      "Every takeoff is optional. Every landing is mandatory."
                      Nate Waddoups

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nazar78
                        alamak broe, i oso using this esc, everything programmed

                        soft start
                        med timing (tried high, motor not hot but esc darn, low=jerking)
                        lipo
                        lower power
                        low cut off
                        brake off
                        throttle range set

                        using wit elf hobby 4200kv 6pole outrunner + dn 2150 20c.

                        wat i notice is this esc gets hot, at times very hot to touch. izit cos of the 2a internal bec? im not sure if this 2a bec works wit my 3xhs55+1xhs50 cos i also notice my rudder hs50 gets a bit warm

                        so i scared to bring my heli high in case over heat or burn
                        I suggest u get an external BEC so that the ESC will run cooler.

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                          #13
                          Thanks broe Adrianli, next in my shoppin list...
                          Current Blink²:
                          Trex-600N: TTRL53H/H#523/CarbSmart/CYATGv3-Gview/JR770T
                          Beam-E4: SC-8/13T/SC-55A/LT2100T

                          History Blink²:
                          Belt-CP
                          Walkera-#60

                          "Every takeoff is optional. Every landing is mandatory."
                          Nate Waddoups

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Adrianli
                            Hi,

                            I think ur ESC timing setting is wrong. As in the manual, for 450TH, timing is medium.

                            Did u set the throttle range also???
                            Just sharing....

                            The manual I have and the downloaded PDF from HobbyWing states timing must be LOW and startup must be SOFT. (refer below)

                            From experience, Low timing works fine, Mid timing will cause erratic stutters at either startups or at a certain rpm depending on the motor's KV
                            Seriously running out of ...Storage space !

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ghostfit
                              Just sharing....

                              The manual I have and the downloaded PDF from HobbyWing states timing must be LOW and startup must be SOFT. (refer below)

                              From experience, Low timing works fine, Mid timing will cause erratic stutters at either startups or at a certain rpm depending on the motor's KV

                              The manual I saw is from here :

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