Scared of Speed trap CAMERA??? Worry no more!!!

[patchin]

Dear Drivers,

I think most drivers are scared of speed traps cameras or even traffic light cameras due to....THEY take your car plate photos..... NOW WORRY NO MORE!!!!!

Check this out.

Don't know whether it works or not.....until you tried it....

[Adrianli]

Only for cameras with flash then it will work.


Now they using more mobile laser+infra red camera, no need flash light, so this stuff dont work liao leh.


The police r always 1 step ahead leh.


:na :na :na

[patchin]

Yup.....it basically works on reflection of the lights angle to the camera,,,,

Well, if it could save you monies on traffic light summons....hahaha....why not?... I think most driver have the bad experienced with traffic light cameras... especially in singapore....with so many hundreds of traffic light camera operating.... hahahaha....

Not teaching you drivers to beat the lights...but ahem...... saving some good monies that can be converted into R/C toys....

[yC86]

cool!... didn't know this thing existed.. and it's "legal in 50 states and all countries world wide"?

do they use the ERP thingy now>?.. some device to take ur number from the IU thingy... after they measure ur speed... for the mobile traps..

and do they have anything to deflect off the radar or absorb it?.. think they sell portable radar/radio jammers in the US... can it be used here?..

[Mathieu]

Think Singapore is too small a place to run. Dont think its worth it, haha, wonder what the penalties are like if they find you're using it.

[Adrianli]

cool!... didn't know this thing existed.. and it's "legal in 50 states and all countries world wide"?

do they use the ERP thingy now>?.. some device to take ur number from the IU thingy... after they measure ur speed... for the mobile traps..

and do they have anything to deflect off the radar or absorb it?.. think they sell portable radar/radio jammers in the US... can it be used here?..

Dear YC,

Welcome to the world of motoring. If read my post above, u will know that now SG police use laser speed detectors of up to 1 km away. That means by the time u speeding n see the police holding the laser gun, ur speed had already been recorded.

Radar / radio jammers r obsolete, only good for stationary old speed cam which everyone knows where it is liao. The US higher end jammers do have laser jammers but its illegal to have it here in SG. Once caught, they will confiscate ur jammer, ur car, u have to pay a fine n call u to polish iron bar at Changi.

But dont forget, the police also have laser, radar n radio detector!!! If u jam their signal, they will know its from u!!! Then good luck to u.

What 4 get ur self into so much trouble for such a small item.


Wana speed go to the race track PG or Sepang. SG race track coming soon!!!

[LittleGiant]

Only for cameras with flash then it will work.


Now they using more mobile laser+infra red camera, no need flash light, so this stuff dont work liao leh.


The police r always 1 step ahead leh.


:na :na :na

I heard one machine cost more than $50K sgd. One machine meaning one mobile laser scanner.

[Brandon Chng]

i think don't speed in the first place. the cams are there in certain areas for a reason. not good for a moment of fun to result in an end to some other party's life

[tucfaz]

Actually. Why bother about speed cam?? if anyone plan to have a high speed thrill. They can always pick a stretch they are familiar with and knowing where the speed cam are located.. Then floor the throttle all the way lah.. For those wanting to drift.. Then they should not worry about speed cam as usually road suitable for drifting are roads in places like ulu sembawang or whatever ulu farm way road etc.. as these places do not have speed cam, and also no traffic police, except for hell cops ..

Or better still. Go across the causeway.. Speed all the way up north south highway, and then back down.

But do plan ahead.. Get extra insurance. For your family.. and don't bring anyone along especially kids and mothers or in-laws or your best friend..

If anyone know what I mean..

Yup.....it basically works on reflection of the lights angle to the camera,,,,

Well, if it could save you monies on traffic light summons....hahaha....why not?... I think most driver have the bad experienced with traffic light cameras... especially in singapore....with so many hundreds of traffic light camera operating.... hahahaha....

Not teaching you drivers to beat the lights...but ahem...... saving some good monies that can be converted into R/C toys....

[jansonfinn]

Actually. Why bother about speed cam?? if anyone plan to have a high speed thrill. They can always pick a stretch they are familiar with and knowing where the speed cam are located.. Then floor the throttle all the way lah.. For those wanting to drift.. Then they should not worry about speed cam as usually road suitable for drifting are roads in places like ulu sembawang or whatever ulu farm way road etc.. as these places do not have speed cam, and also no traffic police, except for hell cops ..

Or better still. Go across the causeway.. Speed all the way up north south highway, and then back down.

But do plan ahead.. Get extra insurance. For your family.. and don't bring anyone along especially kids and mothers or in-laws or your best friend..

If anyone know what I mean..

haha, maybe we can start a thread on where mostly r the good location for the TPs to camp n shoot

[tucfaz]

Actually GPS now have speed cam location and will warn drivers about 1KM ahead of any known speed cam.

But the point is. Don't speed.. If want to speed. do it properly, like get a race car and speed on a race track..

But if it's the 100 KM/H kind like in a hurry kind of speeding.. Then even if you can avoid the cams and all.. Just hope the man in white is not behind you.. Moreover. Petrol is now so expensive.. Better save them for some extra Nitro

haha, maybe we can start a thread on where mostly r the good location for the TPs to camp n shoot

[khatiban]

as long as people follow traffic rules they shouldn't worry about getting into trouble with such anti-speeding devices. The most feared thing on the road now is probably passing through an "ERP IN OPERATION" gantry... a single fine isn't much compared to paying ERPs everyday... traffic laws can ban you from driving. ERPs deter you from driving

just joking so don't take it too seriously

and do they have anything to deflect off the radar or absorb it?.. think they sell portable radar/radio jammers in the US... can it be used here?..

that sounds like F-117 or an F-22 Raptor! I'll love see something like that on the road. it would probably look like a Lamborghini Reventon

[Adrianli]

I heard one machine cost more than $50K sgd. One machine meaning one mobile laser scanner.

I was watching Gumball 3000 and one of the guy had US$26K worth of jammers n detectors in his Mercs cos the previous Gumball 3000, he kena jail term for speeding.

Their kind of speeding is ard 170-200mph, normal car wouldnt have that kind of speed on their speedo.

Very interesting show, Gumball 3000 is in europe, Bullrun is the US version of Gumball.

[astroboyy]

Just drive safely and don't speed so all problem solved.

[DL8698]

Just drive safely and don't speed so all problem solved.

Can't agree more!

Saving money on fines is not the reason not to speed, Saving Lives is!

Why do we say Speeding (ie driving faster than the TP believe is safe to do so on the particular stretch of road) is the main cause of Accidents?

A 1 or 2 ton car has momentum which is the product of speed and weight. The higher the speed of the same weight car the more it's momentum. Therefore a heavy car travelling at high speed has tremendous momentum.

Humans have a certain minimum reaction time, even the best supersonic jet pilot cannot escape this physiological (hope that's the right word) limitation. In other words, from the moment your brain perceives a danger and screams at your feet "STEP ON THE BRAKES!!!", it takes a finite split second.

In that reaction time, your car would have travelled a certain distance, more or less depending on how fast it was going. So a car going real fast will have moved forward much further before your right foot even touches the brake pedal than a car going more slowly.

Unfortunately, our eyesight has its own limitations. No matter what speed you are driving at, we are still going to spot something on the road which our brains then interpret as "DANGER!!", at more or less the same distance away.

So, when a driver is speeding, he still starts to react at the same distance away from the danger he wants to avoid, Unfortunately, the speeding car is now already much nearer to the danger than if he was driving slower, he has even less distance to avoid the now practically unavoidable accident,

Due to the natural instinct of human drivers to stomp with all his "cow" strength on the brake pedal due to panic, the brakes will want to lock, and due to the higher momentum of a speeding car, the car will skid. Once a car starts to skid, it effectively loses all its braking ability, cause the tyre rubber will be melting, and basically acting as a lubricant to allow the car to slide as if you are driving on ice.

Ok, so most cars have anti lock system. Same problem, the brakes want to lock, but the anti lock prevents locking, the car refuses to stop as fast as you want it to. So you save a few hundred $$ on tyres since they did not melt away but you still total the rest of your car.

Another scenario, instead of deciding to stop, your brain is quick thinking enough to say "GO AROUND THAT ____ " (fill in the blank with whatever caused your brain to panic)

Most cars have understeer and the faster you're going the worst is the understeer. There comes a speed where even at full steering wheel deflection your car is still going to hit whatever it is the driver is trying to avoid.

So, you have seen those car ads where the cars are driven on wet roads at high speed and goes around a slalom course as if it's riding on rails, without hitting a single cone and you think you can do the same just because your car has anti lock brakes.

Don't be fooled, anti lock brakes DO NOT perform as well as what we see in those car ads. You will still slam into that obstruction. In fact, Anti lock brakes are both a curse and a blessing. They give drivers a false sense of "don't worry, I can go around any obstruction, at any speed" NOT TRUE!! Used correctly, anti lock brakes can save lives, but depend on them to save lives, you will kill someone eventually.

(Find out more about Anti Lock Brakes http://www.mucda.mb.ca/aboutabs.htm)
A quote from the above link, "However, cars with anti-lock brakes are up to 65% more likely to be in fatal crashes than cars without them, says a new US study."

We mere mortals cannot escape the limitations set by our biological functions or the Laws of Physics. F1 drivers may have a better chance of reacting more correctly than the rest of us, but then I doubt they would be speeding on normal roads, as they know better.

I always feel sick to my stomach when I read about people being killed on the roads, and the driver (if he survived) says "I was driving below the speed limit". Well, all the carnage he left behind says otherwise. If a driver stays within the speed limit, he will have ample time to react, the car will be able to stop as it will be within its capability to do so and all those people will be involved in just a "nearly accident" instead of being next day's headline news.

My advice:
(freely given after more than 30 years of driving, with no major accident, except minor ones during my younger, less experienced days as a driver)

Want the thrill of speeding?
Join a motoring club and do it on a proper race track after suitable training.

Want to speed or you'll be late for an appointment?
Set out on your trip earlier, with ample time to arrive on time without having to speed, and taking in consideration weather conditions, traffic peak hours, etc.

Already set out early but road conditions have slowed you down?

Well, then BE LATE, better than being THE LATE __ .