Old Holland Road Flying Site

[MerrillChia]

Hi guys,
This afternoon the men in blue came round again. They said they received complaints from neighbours flying Nitro Helicopters and that we had to move our vehicles as well. I spoke to the officers and they said that the residents had complained and said that they felt it was unsafe and dangerous as there was alot of smoke and it was very loud. The issue of parking our cars there had also been brought up yet again.
I strongly urge nitro flyers to find other locations to fly as we do not want to lose another flying site. To date, when we have been flying small electric park flyers we had no complaints.
I understand that I have no right to tell nitro flyers not to fly there, but please do spare a thought for others. I am a regular at the flying site and i did see the nitro heli's this morning. I must say it looked rather dangerous with 4 big heli's in the sky at a time and were standing rather close to the walk way.

Parking is a problem there and only adds to the problem. Though there is no immediate solution to that problem, we can cut down the number of things which attract these complaints. The nitro issue is unfortunately one of them. I do enjoy the sound and smell of it, but it is just one of the things we cannot fly there as it is the poisen of some neighbour over there. All equipment should be kept off the pavement at all times, people taking walks or jogs show much displeasure everytime they have to take little detours around our equipment. Joggers also sometimes intentionally kick our things, but we can't do anything. These are potentially the people who complaint.
Please spare a thought for these people who are the kings of the road and keep off the pathway. We are in a very rich neighbourhood which treasure the tranquility and enviroment around them, so lets not provoke them.
At least let the park flyers, Gliders and electrics fly in the area, the field would not be a lost to us if we just abide by their rules and stay in their good books. I really hope not to stir up trouble with the residents there and preserve the field for electrics. At least it won't be a total lost.

[jansonfinn]

Hi guys, anyone wants the DH shirts? If there r interested parties, i will drop by OHR this weekend to collect the orders from u guys.

[mickey]

Hi guys,
This afternoon the men in blue came round again. They said they received complaints from neighbours flying Nitro Helicopters

Gong Xi Fa Cai to all and MerrillChia.

Nice to have met u the other day at Bt Timah flying area.

I think that ALL Nitro flyers should really be flying at all the designated areas as this has been a PROVEN case that nitro flyers will attract unnecessary attention of the man-in-blue. Those who wish to fly in various unofficial parks, pls bring along only ur Park Flyers.. e.g. Electric planes and electric heli or any other electric UFOs.

Now the point here is... if u are flying in one of those un-official parks with a group of other flyers who are ALL flying only electric planes... then along comes a dude with his Nitro Plane/Heli... how should we approach that guy? I tried once in a nice way to tell him maybe this not a good idea and he shot back at me and says "I have been flying here since 5 years ago...and i think u new here so u better shut up!" Not exactly those words but effectively like that... so now how???

What I mean is that we can all put our views here and lament about the issue but I think it is NOT going to change anything unless all the park flyers are in total agreement to 1-single action to curb the nitro flyers from those un-official parks.

So, what say u Merrill?

[MerrillChia]

Gong Xi Fa Cai to all and MerrillChia.

Nice to have met u the other day at Bt Timah flying area.

I think that ALL Nitro flyers should really be flying at all the designated areas as this has been a PROVEN case that nitro flyers will attract unnecessary attention of the man-in-blue. Those who wish to fly in various unofficial parks, pls bring along only ur Park Flyers.. e.g. Electric planes and electric heli or any other electric UFOs.

Now the point here is... if u are flying in one of those un-official parks with a group of other flyers who are ALL flying only electric planes... then along comes a dude with his Nitro Plane/Heli... how should we approach that guy? I tried once in a nice way to tell him maybe this not a good idea and he shot back at me and says "I have been flying here since 5 years ago...and i think u new here so u better shut up!" Not exactly those words but effectively like that... so now how???

What I mean is that we can all put our views here and lament about the issue but I think it is NOT going to change anything unless all the park flyers are in total agreement to 1-single action to curb the nitro flyers from those un-official parks.

So, what say u Merrill?

Well my friend, All i can say is that we can only try. The land is still a free land and we have to right to dictate who uses the field and who doesn't. That's why i hope pleading to the goodness of each individual's good soul is good enough. If they cannot understand and see why, it is only evident how selfish that one can be. I am glad to say that the regulars at OHR field understand this and fly electrics there only. They are aware that it is no place for their nitros and take them to other fields. There are however, 1 or 2 very persistent nitro flyers. I know who you were talking about. You are not the only one who encountered him. Read on.. Its true that we are new to the area, he probably didn't have problems when the field was less populated. And population at the field doesn't help the parking issue (1 of the 2 major problems at this field. Police have come because of complaints about this as well). Thank goodness my uncle has just moved 50m from the spot we fly! Free parking for me! yeah! Oh and yes, he can hear the nitro's very very clearly from his house. As well as High Kv aeroplanes. Back to topic...

With that said, i believe most people have some good in them and is how they are told not to fly there. Like all other fields, we are at the mercy of each individuals contribution to maintaining and ensuring that we don't loose the field. All it takes is one or two selfish people and it can create havoc.

I believe the flyers at punggol can relate to this with their recent issue with high KV planes flying in the early mornings. Just imagine if a few selfish goons still insisted on doing so.. It would just mean they are gonna deprive others.
With that said, some people are just selfish. I hope these people stop and take a look at what they are doing.

I Can only hope that Regulars to the field help to encourage an electric only attitude at this field and that "visitors" to the field not try their luck with their nitros. It is obvious that they have had other locations to fly before but decided to come back after things with the police had cooled off. These poeple need to know that when you did come back, so did the complaints. Get my drift?

-As far as the problem with nitro goes, again, it is not the 1 and only reason why there are complaints. Electric flyers also need to practice good flying discipline. Move deeper into the field before taking off. Yes, accidents do happen. This applies to both heli's and planes.
-Don't be hero and take off from the pavement.
-NO BARANG BARANG ON THE PAVEMENT! The kings & queens take strolls and jogs there regularly and don't like to be obstructed.
-Smile to residents who are walking, jogging. A simple smile and a 'hello' goes a long way. If the residents like you, they probably won't complain.


Gong Xi Fa Chai to one and all!

[Heli_fanatic]

i think , if possible dont fly nitros in the morning . Leave time slots for electrics and nitros?

[MerrillChia]

i think , if possible dont fly nitros in the morning . Leave time slots for electrics and nitros?

Well, The problem is not with the timing. Residents there generally feel that the nitro's are unsafe. Imagine more and more people started flying at PFW. Its the noise, and everything. Remember there are houses just a stones throw away. Unfortunately, there already have been instances of aircrafts loosing control and crashing opposite the road.
Please also remember that OHR is infamous for the terrible glitches. When it happens, you are not allowed to say its not your fault. This is especially so for those who are not very steady with their thumbs and flying nitro. I've witness this myself and was afraid of even being there. Inexperience plus some dumb courage and a little suayness of glitch means.... you get the picture. Even 2.4GHz lock outs occur at this field.
Well, back on track, if you weren't a hobbyist, nitro's are definitely more intimidating than electrics. Anybody disagree? Well, unfortunately, it is not liked by the residents.

If it were to resort to time. I would say do not fly nitro's in the morning and evenings. These are times where most residents go out for jogs, walks and are still at home to complain. There is a school nearby, so weekday mornings are out. Evenings are bad due to joggers. Weekend mornings arn't good due to the noise with houses nearby. Evening are overcrowded to fly nitro as there are alot of people who fly electrics come at this time.

If nitro flyers fly at odd hours of the day, say between 2-4 on weekdays and 12-4 on weekends, it could work. It is hard to achieve this kind of time discipline. Then again, after that if the police come round again, we know the main cause after.

[MerrillChia]

Well guys, i am just trying to save the field i am flying at. This is were i've flown daily with electric since i started, and witnessed the changes and heard the complaints myself.
I hope visitors to OHR understand what has happened to the field before and take measures and follow suit by flying electrics on at the park. While hobbyist like myself love to see and smell the nitro, it is frowned upon by residents. I live 3mins away from the field and yet i travel all the way to tuas if i were to fly nitro or even my big electrics.
The field is not owned by me, but cherished by the regulars and myself. We do not want to loose this field because nothing was said and done.

[mickey]

Well guys, i am just trying to save the field i am flying at. This is were i've flown daily with electric since i started, and witnessed the changes and heard the complaints myself.
I hope visitors to OHR understand what has happened to the field before and take measures and follow suit by flying electrics on at the park. While hobbyist like myself love to see and smell the nitro, it is frowned upon by residents. I live 3mins away from the field and yet i travel all the way to tuas if i were to fly nitro or even my big electrics.
The field is not owned by me, but cherished by the regulars and myself. We do not want to loose this field because nothing was said and done.

I think MerrillChia hit the nail on the head between the eyes....;want to fly Nitro, should go to Tuas! ... or somewhere else where there is no track records of complains... but where OHR is concern, the complains is already a proven thing.. so no need to even stagger timing and try the elimination process.

As with the high KV electric in Punggol, I really have no idea as i have not been there recently. However during some weeks back when I frequent there and brought along the FunJET (High KV) those flyers there are also very considerate and tell us not to fly that too early in the morning, basically we fly those high KV only after 9am or later but not before. Really wondered what has changed since... maybe a new group of people just arrived there and show no respects for the seniors there.

[jansonfinn]

hi

Anyone still flying EP in this field?

[Ivan M]

Anyone still flying EP in this field?

I still see pple flying almost every evening there.

There's this guy with a 2.4Ghz that flies his Multiplex (i dont know what plane that is) and I see him almost each time I drive by!

[jansonfinn]

I still see pple flying almost every evening there.

There's this guy with a 2.4Ghz that flies his Multiplex (i dont know what plane that is) and I see him almost each time I drive by!

ok thanks, thought it was rumoured that something is developing on tis land liao.

Anyway will be there this fri afternoon, sat & sun morning. Any1 coming too?

[Ivan M]

ok thanks, thought it was rumoured that something is developing on tis land liao.

Anyway will be there this fri afternoon, sat & sun morning. Any1 coming too?

Just head there.
Sure got pple!

[KaoSan]

Lost & Found

Hi,

I absent mindedly left my Transmitter case today with all me stuff inside at the Old holland Road flying field.... By the time I realised it and went back to find it, it was gone. If any kind soul has picked it up for safe keeping please gimme a call at 91558429

Your help will be most appreciated. It was a spektrum case with a JR X9303 inside with alot of other stuff. Someone plz help!

Sean

[Crafter]

Glitches caused by deliberate interference?

Hi All,

I was just reading the point made by MerillChia above about OHR field being notorious for glitches, and the general dislike that the residents have for us flyers there.

Just wondering, could those glitches have been caused by the residents delierately turning on some Tx and getting lucky by finding the same the freq. as the affected flyers? Who knows? I wouldn't be surprised, given that there is resentment towards RC flying there.

Going further on this topic of interference, with regards to 2.4GHz systems, is that also the frequency of wireless LAN router signals? Correct me if I'm wrong. If so, could this have been the cause of glitches on 2.4GHz systems, since it sounds like residents homes are pretty close by?

Just wondering...

Yeah, thank goodness we have quieter electric power these days. I'll never go back to nitro myself.

Cheers All,
Pete

[usuckpoo]

Those guys have $700,000 dollar cars in their garage. If they wanted to sabotage you, i think they will find more sophisticated ways than going out to buy a TX and trying to figure out what frequency u are on.