Can learn to hover from flybarless heli?

[IAmDrones]

Hi all

Need some advice for all guru here.
Currently I still learn to hover on simulator and 450 class, does have much improve much. Anyway now I think of getting into nitro as my understand is bigger it more stable and easier to learn.
For newbies like me still learn for hover can I get FBL version of heli to learn? Is it will more stable with advance controller? if it true then this should help in learning process right?

Need some advice please

[IAmDrones]

Hi all

Need some advice for all guru here.
Currently I still learn to hover on simulator and 450 class, does have much improve much. Anyway now I think of getting into nitro as my understand is bigger it more stable and easier to learn.
For newbies like me still learn for hover can I get FBL version of heli to learn? Is it will more stable with advance controller? if it true then this should help in learning process right?

Need some advice please

Ops I mean not much improve in hovering

[Duffy]

I am a newbie myself and have passed my hovering stage not too long ago, so just share my own experience.

My humble opinion is that you are better off nail down your hovering with your sim and 450 first.

There is no shortcut and no magic, just lots and lots of practice. That's why sims are such an invaluable tool.

I recall someone interviewed Nick Maxwell, he said he spent the first year just learn to hover. I believe there was no sim in his early days.

For hovering practice, I find 450 is good. Just make sure you have training gear on. Once you can hover all 4 orientations comfortably, a bigger heli would be good due to better visibility and resistance to wind, when you actually fly it.

As for FB vs. FBL, there are numerous discussions on various heli forums. I have both FB and FBL on my 450. I personally prefer to learn on a FB. It really force you to learn to correct, whereas a good FBL today can hover on it's own, even inverted.

Hope this helps


Hope this helps.

[JYZoom]

Bro,

I am FBL guy.....go FBL and it will make your learning easier.
However make sure you get a good FBL... beastX is a great starting point.
Best of all, crash cost will be much lower as less parts.
Get a Trex 450 and then eother use a Align or RJX FBL head and you are in good hand.

regards,
Jonathan

[feudallordcult]

I am a newbie myself and have passed my hovering stage not too long ago, so just share my own experience.

My humble opinion is that you are better off nail down your hovering with your sim and 450 first.

There is no shortcut and no magic, just lots and lots of practice. That's why sims are such an invaluable tool.I recall someone interviewed Nick Maxwell, he said he spent the first year just learn to hover. I believe there was no sim in his early days.

For hovering practice, I find 450 is good. Just make sure you have training gear on. Once you can hover all 4 orientations comfortably, a bigger heli would be good due to better visibility and resistance to wind, when you actually fly it.

As for FB vs. FBL, there are numerous discussions on various heli forums. I have both FB and FBL on my 450. I personally prefer to learn on a FB. It really force you to learn to correct, whereas a good FBL today can hover on it's own, even inverted.

Hope this helps


Hope this helps.

+1 on the sim

[IAmDrones]

Thanks you for all advice.
Yes I do understand on practice and how importance of SIM. That why I invest on SIM (More expensive that my first Co-ax heli ) Actually I try to get is some think like training wheels so I can start to learn on paddle before start to balance on bicycle.

[misato]

I find that learning from a crash is just as valuable a lesson to take home. Trying not to crash is always an up hill battle against gravity, physics and a draw of luck.

SIM is just simulated physics, it doesn't give you the heart ache, "pocket pain" and the fear learnt for not respecting nature, so don't spend all the time on it and forget the practicals.

[hallobaby]

I would think that FBL will cost you very dearly..
Crashing is always part of the game..
Nowadays, clone 450 is dirt cheap on china website
The spares are even worst!!!
And I will not think that you will not crash using FBL..

Just my half cents..

[Adrianli]

I would think that FBL will cost you very dearly..
Crashing is always part of the game..
Nowadays, clone 450 is dirt cheap on china website
The spares are even worst!!!
And I will not think that you will not crash using FBL..

Just my half cents..

Actually, crash on a FBL is much cheaper than Flybar cos less parts count.

FBL will definately improve the learning curve of handling the heli. But learning abt FBL, it will be a long road. I doubt a beginner will fully appreciate the complexity of a FBL. Seen a few examples of beginner with FBL, some succeed, some fail.

[Murdanny]

Be it flybar or flybarless, simulator is vital. And you will need plenty of guidance from kakis.