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    Tail Vibrating/waging on Sceadu Evo 50

    I really cannot find the cause of the problem....please help...

    All movements are smooth...no binding too

    Using Futaba GY502 W/9254 servo

    Tail twitches when in a hover...please help
    JR PCM9XII
    Align T-Rex 450XL (HDE)
    HIROBO Sceadu Evolution 50
    AVANT EFX

    O.S 50SX-Hyper
    O.S MAX91 SZ-H RING PS-HYPER

    Futaba GY401
    Futaba GY502
    Futaba GY611

    #2
    Originally posted by Xue
    I really cannot find the cause of the problem....please help...

    All movements are smooth...no binding too

    Using Futaba GY502 W/9254 servo

    Tail twitches when in a hover...please help
    Tighten up your belt. Loose belts cause the tail to switch.
    You din't crash the heli prior to that right?
    Don't PCW

    Beam E4
    Flybarless Trex 600N VBAR 4.0 | OS50 Hyper
    Trex 700 LE | YS91SR3C

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      #3
      no I didn't...the belt tension is quite tight...I am afraid if too tight can cause the belt to strip too...

      Anymore possibilities? Do you think there is play on the tail assembly causing this problem?
      JR PCM9XII
      Align T-Rex 450XL (HDE)
      HIROBO Sceadu Evolution 50
      AVANT EFX

      O.S 50SX-Hyper
      O.S MAX91 SZ-H RING PS-HYPER

      Futaba GY401
      Futaba GY502
      Futaba GY611

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        #4
        Is your engine already ran in?
        Any slight coughing in the engine will cause the tail to kick or run a little.
        What headspeed are you at?

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          #5
          My engine is already run in...having been flying for 4 months already...just removed the training skids and found this problem....
          JR PCM9XII
          Align T-Rex 450XL (HDE)
          HIROBO Sceadu Evolution 50
          AVANT EFX

          O.S 50SX-Hyper
          O.S MAX91 SZ-H RING PS-HYPER

          Futaba GY401
          Futaba GY502
          Futaba GY611

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            #6
            Originally posted by ammo
            What headspeed are you at?
            Hee...I don't have a technometer to measure the headspeed...
            JR PCM9XII
            Align T-Rex 450XL (HDE)
            HIROBO Sceadu Evolution 50
            AVANT EFX

            O.S 50SX-Hyper
            O.S MAX91 SZ-H RING PS-HYPER

            Futaba GY401
            Futaba GY502
            Futaba GY611

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              #7
              In that case, it's less likely to be the engine.
              You mentioned play in the tail assembly? which section is it?

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                #8
                I think is the problem with the tail slider...a bit of play is found there...
                I tried to move the tail blades when I on my heli and it seems to moves a little...
                JR PCM9XII
                Align T-Rex 450XL (HDE)
                HIROBO Sceadu Evolution 50
                AVANT EFX

                O.S 50SX-Hyper
                O.S MAX91 SZ-H RING PS-HYPER

                Futaba GY401
                Futaba GY502
                Futaba GY611

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Xue
                  I think is the problem with the tail slider...a bit of play is found there...
                  I tried to move the tail blades when I on my heli and it seems to moves a little...
                  What kind of play?
                  is it play around the bushing or is it that the tail slider can can be moved up and down around the bearing?(in this case tighten up the screw)
                  Don't PCW

                  Beam E4
                  Flybarless Trex 600N VBAR 4.0 | OS50 Hyper
                  Trex 700 LE | YS91SR3C

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                    #10
                    just put more glue next time.
                    JR 9x
                    Raptor 50 SE
                    Raptor 90 3D
                    Mini-Titan


                    Superb machine!

                    Piper Warrior 2 Pa-28-161
                    Lycoming O-320-D3G 160HP

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                    Pratt & Whitney PT6A-64B 1600SHP

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                      #11
                      I already removed the tail pitch slider and tightened the nut but it seems that no matter how tight it is there is still play...it moved left and right...
                      JR PCM9XII
                      Align T-Rex 450XL (HDE)
                      HIROBO Sceadu Evolution 50
                      AVANT EFX

                      O.S 50SX-Hyper
                      O.S MAX91 SZ-H RING PS-HYPER

                      Futaba GY401
                      Futaba GY502
                      Futaba GY611

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                        #12
                        Ammo what do you think?...I am very troubled now...can't wait to get this problem slove...
                        JR PCM9XII
                        Align T-Rex 450XL (HDE)
                        HIROBO Sceadu Evolution 50
                        AVANT EFX

                        O.S 50SX-Hyper
                        O.S MAX91 SZ-H RING PS-HYPER

                        Futaba GY401
                        Futaba GY502
                        Futaba GY611

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                          #13
                          Can't really troubleshoot without seeing the heli.
                          Try asking those whom you fly with if they face the same problem before, maybe they'll know exactly which portion needs adjustment

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                            #14
                            Sadly I always fly alone...sob
                            Only on weekdays...due to my working schedule...
                            JR PCM9XII
                            Align T-Rex 450XL (HDE)
                            HIROBO Sceadu Evolution 50
                            AVANT EFX

                            O.S 50SX-Hyper
                            O.S MAX91 SZ-H RING PS-HYPER

                            Futaba GY401
                            Futaba GY502
                            Futaba GY611

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                              #15

                              I am flying a EVO 50 without any of the problems which your are facing. The play you felt on the tail rotor head is normal and you need that play. Take care do not to use the original tail hub change the whole tail assembly to FEYA to avoid a crash due to tail hub failed.
                              If you do not have a third bearing block for your tail belt drive you should follow the manual set-up loosen your belt tension a little. If you prefer to have your belt drive tight you need to install a third bearing block. This should solve your tail haunting problem if your GYRO gain is set correctly.
                              Many flyers complain about Tail / EVO 50 Vibration, my EVO never vibrates. I have tried with my head speed (main rotor RPM) above 2,000 RPM. I have a tachometer from K&S, which can measure, up to 2,400 rpm and have calibrated with an aviation vibration-measuring instrument (Chadwick 8500). To obtain this you have to install a space between the main frames whenever it is possible.

                              Hope this will help you and many happy flying.

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