Pattern flying anyone ?

[aeious11]

Hi anyone flying pattern here in daddyhobby ?


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[aeious11]

come on leh.......50+ plus view and not even a single reply?????

[LouisLLH]

Hi anyone flying pattern here in daddyhobby ?


* Insurance TO fly --> please your wife and kids *

F3A??

[simonwoo]

Haha.. Sorry I'm one of those who read and did not respond, simply cos it's too advanced for me. You are referring to precision aerobatics right? I can do a loop and Immerman half cuban 8 etc, but to ensure entry point and exit point are the same, that the loop has to be of a certain diameter, initial angle must be 45deg etc - a bit too difficult to do and judge, especially when honestly a lot of our planes aren't even trimmed that properly

[aeious11]

finally a REPLY !!!! haha lol....basically i am just looking whether is there any pattern flying interest in the TEAM......have been a long time fav of pattern flying for a while.......btw do you guys have any pattern competition in daddyhobby ?

[LouisLLH]

finally a REPLY !!!! haha lol....basically i am just looking whether is there any pattern flying interest in the TEAM......have been a long time fav of pattern flying for a while.......btw do you guys have any pattern competition in daddyhobby ?

Im now learning P-09, juz practicing, try next yr join competition. (Am i dreaming?) Btw there will be a competition at RMS on March.

[LouisLLH]

Im now learning P-09, juz practicing, try next yr join competition. (Am i dreaming?) Btw there will be a competition at RMS on March.

Opps i only heard tat the competition is on march, but im not 100% sure.

[Blackite207]

Hi I love pattern planes. I have a Curare and a Kingbird. Both are old designs and fly fast with big manuvers. I have a Suduction Streamline which is not exactly a pattern ship but flies like one only its slower and the manuvers are more close in and easier to see.

It is a difficult to master but most satisfying. I am not too good at it as I have trouble maintaining entry and exit position without making majot flight corrections along the way.

Cheers!

[Murdanny]

Hi !

I was once a pattern flyer. Had an Oxai Pinnacle and World Model Tai Ji. Participated in the clubman, sportsman and advanced competition before but nv made it to F3A due to heli...

cheers!

[aeious11]

haha oh yah...btw i heard that the competition in march at RMS is all like open to everyone. So why not just give it a shot lah ? whether bad or not....i mean just go for fun lor....if really want to compete have to seriously train for lot more. Beside that also can see how we can improve pattern flying.

And also, the new rule book for F3A pattern flying is out on the FAI website....I recommend reading it....alot of good info on it.....currently got any good pattern pilots in singapore ?

[mun36]

If you are serious about pattern flying, you will need a few things:
(a) a welll built, balanced and trimmed pattern plane.
(b) lots of practise time, disciplined practise....
(c) a good caller. Your caller provide timing, heading and manuever corrections that are sometimes difficult for the pilot to judge. Callers also remind pilots to turn on/off mixes and conditions required for some manuevers but not all in the schedule. So the caller has to make time to train with you.

Beginning in pattern flying need not be an expensive affair especially for both clubman and sportsman classes. An example, in the 2000 Inaugural Singapore Aeromodelling Championships,the Sportsman class was won by a chap flying a CG Tiger 60 and a standard radio set. This was against 24+ other competitors, a few of them equipped with 2m competition models and top of the line equipment, etc.

[joe yap]

You also need very patient spectators as well. With all competitors drawing the same lines and curves in the sky, spectators can quickly get bored and dose off. The pilots are the other way round. Sometime, pattern flying seems more like a pilots sport than a spectator sport.

[aeious11]

to mun,

Pointers TAKEN !!!!!! just realised that i do need a caller.


to joe,

I can understand....but i think that to fly pattern is to make yourself feel rewarding for being able to do it better each time. Not the awe spectators and stuff..that where 3D come in.....beside i think it is more rewarding to do a set of sequence in perfection, graceful and blah blah blah....than to just torque roll or fly around without any aims in mind oh what to do to improve as a skill. Beside I think pattern is required to rule out a certain important aspect of aeromodelling discipline before heading even into jets, pylon and stuff. Pattern has the necessary skills and knowledge required to teach aeromodellers for life.

But in anyway, I do appreciate your comments....thx!!!

[joe yap]

to mun,

Pointers TAKEN !!!!!! just realised that i do need a caller.


to joe,

I can understand....but i think that to fly pattern is to make yourself feel rewarding for being able to do it better each time. Not the awe spectators and stuff..that where 3D come in.....beside i think it is more rewarding to do a set of sequence in perfection, graceful and blah blah blah....than to just torque roll or fly around without any aims in mind oh what to do to improve as a skill. Beside I think pattern is required to rule out a certain important aspect of aeromodelling discipline before heading even into jets, pylon and stuff. Pattern has the necessary skills and knowledge required to teach aeromodellers for life.

But in anyway, I do appreciate your comments....thx!!!

I can only agree to a certain extend. I don't really think one needs to be a serious pattern flyer to move on to other aspects in this hobby, although proper pattern flying can enhance one,s skill in other aspects. Different aspects of flying emphasis on very different approaches. Most books will mention that the pattern plane should be flown before moving on to jets or pylon racers, but that does not mean one needs to learn to fly competition style precision aerobatics to qualify to move on.

I used to fly some smaller 25 size pattern planes which I enjoyed a lot. However, my main interest these days is still sailplane flying, which I think involves more skill and knowledge than most people will think. Again, I'm expecting some people who will disagree with me.

[mun36]

You also need very patient spectators as well. With all competitors drawing the same lines and curves in the sky, spectators can quickly get bored and dose off. The pilots are the other way round. Sometime, pattern flying seems more like a pilots sport than a spectator sport.

haha ... yeah ... it can be really boring looking at other people flying the schedule. I think being a judge is tough job.

however, I happened to ever witness some world class pilots flying the F3A schedule before in an international competition... I was a spectator and I was really impressed... it was a mind blowing experience... i remember on day 2 of competition, they were flying in very strong cross winds (on conditions that would had grounded most of us, with overcast sky and all)... the straight lines they fly and all the corrections to counter wind drift is simply amazing... the plane would crab heavily into the wind but they still fly straighter horizontal and vertical lines than most of us could on a calm day .