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    Erm...., i did read about the kf airfoils...
    only proven that works speed under a certain limit, my guess is around 100km/h. Its only efficient at lower speeds. But then your wing could fly at a higher angle of attack without stalling compared to commonly used airfoils.
    (I didn't really test this out but i read it over the internet)

    well...no harm trying a new type of airfoil, just give it a shot!

    Here are some reviews i found from the internet:

    This is my son's flight review: This thing flies amazingly well! The slow flight characteristics are very nice, it flies VERY slow and the wing does not appear to tip stall at very slow speeds. When I pulled power off and held full up elevator, it maintained a steep glide with a slightly nose-up attitude, and again, the ailerons had good authority throughout. Knife edge flight was easy and there was little coupling. All that was required was a little down elevator to fly knife edge straight. She hovers easily. The ailerons seemed to have more authority than normal in the hover, but I'll have to fly it more to be sure. Entering flat spins (both normal and inverted) was very easy, and the aircraft had exceptional aileron control (especially inverted) and was very nice throughout. Also, for flat spins, the forgiving nature of this design makes "bailing out" of these maneuvers very easy. Likewise, maneuvers like waterfalls and so on are quite stable. The rudder on this plane allows me to "whip" the tail around and perform many of the other more radical things, but this also flies much more like a "real" plane. The KFm wing seems to let this plane "groove" much more like some of the larger nitro birds I've flown (like the Kaos), while simultaneously giving me the best of the foamies (namely amazing slow flight and ease of use). The most striking thing for me is how quickly this plane can go from fast "grooving" flight to very stable slow flight. Obviously these are just my first impressions, but as I spend more time flying I'll be sure to update you on its performance.

    Another follow up review: I have flown the Regal a couple times now since my last post and I am still very happy with how well this plane flies and with how good it looks in the air. The KFm wing is fabulous for sport/3D flying! Because it is very forgiving at slow speeds it is a blast to fly low and slow both upright and inverted. Also, this plane will snap roll, which is something some of my other foamies were incapable of doing.

    Normally I have found that half throttle gives me a good speed for just flying around, and it hovers around 3/4 stick. (Of course there is unlimited vertical performance at full throttle)


    Taken from : http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22654
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      Thanks viper. Yah. Think i'll go ahead and try it. Now the next baffling challenge is to find a way to mount my towerpro 1400kv motor. Why on earth towerpro use 3 holes in triangle formation for the motor base but give motor mount with 4 corner formation? SIGH... Rotor guy say just epoxy to balsa, instead of screwing it in. Will it hold? Any other suggestions?

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        Hi, I'm been using tower pro motor almost on all my planes and yes, they are cheap and powerful motors but the most headache part is doing the mounting.

        I have 2 meathods that i'm using

        1st) You can choose firewall mounting ( i drill 3 holes into the plywood align with the holes in the motor and screw them with nuts and bot, then epoxy to the plane)

        2nd) The plastic motor holder they provide can actually hole the motor very well if done properly. I drill 3 holes onto the surface of the plastic of the motor mount and just use nuts and bots to hold them together tightly.
        Then you can now use a 1x1cm stick and glue into the motor mount.
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          I'm building another one. Coro again, to get rid of my surplus. Viper, I'm half serious about paying you to do a simple foam cutter for me.
          "Always fly with a responsible attitude. You may think that flying low over other people’s heads is proof of your piloting skill; others know better. The real expert does not need to prove himself in such childish ways..." - the Multiplex Build Manual

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            Haha! Well, when ur pretty sure you want one i seriously don't mind making it for you!

            Want the specs of my wirecutter?

            My its just a simple line tensioned just 5cm away from the holder. Kinda different from other people's wirecutter because the distance of the wire and the holder is very close, but i get more accuracy in cutting (well,thats my opinion)

            I'm using the thinniest garden wire i can find from DIY store. $2 for 20meters. takes me like forever to use them up!.

            Can varies in heating temperature by simply changing the length of the string by sliding the ground wire that is on the heating element. very much like a gigantic sized potentiometer... from around 70 degrees to er..i have no idea but the wire is glowing red hot.

            Oh..and my dc12V supply comes from my esky charger adaptor ..haha.

            So you want one? Haha..

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              Here are the specs:

              wingspan : 36"
              wingarea : ~270sqin
              wingloading: ~8.5oz/sqft
              motor : GS B20-40-12
              Battery : TP 1320mah 3S 13C cont
              ESC : Hobby wing 30
              prop : APC 4.75 x 4.75
              AUW : 16oz (440gm)[/QUOTE]

              hi joe, may i noe what's the length of the MH60 wing core and MH43 Wingtip?
              is the thickness of the core more than 1 inch which is y you choose to use 2 inch foam?also did you use hardcard board to fabricate the airfoil templet?thanks in advance!

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                Originally posted by BigKid View Post
                Here are the specs:

                wingspan : 36"
                wingarea : ~270sqin
                wingloading: ~8.5oz/sqft
                motor : GS B20-40-12
                Battery : TP 1320mah 3S 13C cont
                ESC : Hobby wing 30
                prop : APC 4.75 x 4.75
                AUW : 16oz (440gm)
                hi joe, may i noe what's the length of the MH60 wing core and MH43 Wingtip?
                is the thickness of the core more than 1 inch which is y you choose to use 2 inch foam?also did you use hardcard board to fabricate the airfoil templet?thanks in advance![/QUOTE]

                For this particular flying wing, I used MH60 throughout the span. You can use MH43 at the tips if you want. The chord length of the wing root is 9" and the tip is 3 3/8" without the elevons. The elevons are 3/4" wide at the centre of the wing (projected) and the tips are 1.5" wide. The first 3" of inboard sections of the elevons are cut away for propellor clearance.

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                  how about posting a layout here in jpeg format?

                  That way, we can cut our JY flying wings. Can just upscale to 120cm span?
                  "Always fly with a responsible attitude. You may think that flying low over other people’s heads is proof of your piloting skill; others know better. The real expert does not need to prove himself in such childish ways..." - the Multiplex Build Manual

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                    Originally posted by viper1990 View Post
                    Haha! Well, when ur pretty sure you want one i seriously don't mind making it for you!

                    Want the specs of my wirecutter?

                    My its just a simple line tensioned just 5cm away from the holder. Kinda different from other people's wirecutter because the distance of the wire and the holder is very close, but i get more accuracy in cutting (well,thats my opinion)

                    I'm using the thinniest garden wire i can find from DIY store. $2 for 20meters. takes me like forever to use them up!.

                    Can varies in heating temperature by simply changing the length of the string by sliding the ground wire that is on the heating element. very much like a gigantic sized potentiometer... from around 70 degrees to er..i have no idea but the wire is glowing red hot.

                    Oh..and my dc12V supply comes from my esky charger adaptor ..haha.

                    So you want one? Haha..
                    Haar? like that only ah.
                    d'oh.
                    "Always fly with a responsible attitude. You may think that flying low over other people’s heads is proof of your piloting skill; others know better. The real expert does not need to prove himself in such childish ways..." - the Multiplex Build Manual

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                      Originally posted by joe yap View Post
                      You probably mean PAW 149 which is .09 cuin and 1.49cc. I still have one along with the 249. Think you miss the ether too much.
                      PAW diesels - this is going quite a bit back in time. I remember them well. Quite tough engines. We really trashed the hell out of them and they'd still continue to work. But as I recall, they were'nt of consistent quality. The ball bearing ones were slightly better but the fit of the plain bearing motors varied from good to down to pretty bad when compared to the likes of Oliver Tiger, MVVS D7 and Rossi D15s that became availble later.

                      Ah - nostalgia. Anyone for CL Rat Racing?
                      To win........one must not lose.

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                        ANYTIME bro !


                        ...still got a whole bunch of them plain bearing PAWs 149, 249 as well as PAW 249 CS (Combat PAWS) ...but no matter how bad some of them were, ...cannot compare with the China CS engines ...that one so bad, we started calling them Chicken Shit (CS) engines.

                        But diesel fuel WILL eat compress foam !!!
                        Seriously running out of ...Storage space !

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                          Originally posted by Ghostfit View Post
                          ANYTIME bro !


                          ...still got a whole bunch of them plain bearing PAWs 149, 249 as well as PAW 249 CS (Combat PAWS) ...but no matter how bad some of them were, ...cannot compare with the China CS engines ...that one so bad, we started calling them Chicken Shit (CS) engines.

                          But diesel fuel WILL eat compress foam !!!
                          Not just that. Even mylar coverings like Monokote and Solarfilm are not spared. Polyester films like Oracover and Solarkote are 'diesel' fuelproof, So is Solartex, but they are heavier.

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                            I'm with you 110% on that - they were real Chicken S*** alright. But my first couple of diesels weren't any better. One was a Frog and the next a DC. Anyways better stop now or will end up hijacking this thread.
                            Last edited by Tony; 30-07-2008, 10:06 AM.
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