building the e-starter

[wtp]

hi guys just bought the e-starter package yesterday,dunno whether i got the correct stuff or not,pls do give some feedback.thanx to all

1)e-starter kit wif 350c powered brushed motor system
2)a 20A brushed esc from esky
3)lipo 2s 1050mah 10c batt
4)walkera tx/rx wif 2 micro servos,(i guess i need 3 servos)

i a beginner n recently i heard ppl commenting on this plane,tat y i giv it a try.i hope i not wrong bout this purchase.

[HZM]

If u totally new to RC, u might jump on the wrong wagon, I would suggest a slow stick instead If someone is helping/flying w u, then its still not too bad

Mike

[alamin2]

did you get the whole set with the walkera Tx/rx together ? which shop did you buy your stuff from...

an e-starter is also a good beginner's plane however do fly with an experienced flyer... to some, flying a 3ch plane is already difficult let alone yours has 4ch

3 servos needed, ailerons, ruder and elevator.

[xwing]

Hey welcome to the world of flying! i just started flying my slowstick ... prior to this i had a funny park (Which really NOT a beginner's plane) i was told it can be used.... anyway... the e-starter i believe most people are saying its a good beginner's plane. But coaching is really needed cause the experience i had with foamies... is that you spend more time repairing it then to fix it if you don't have a mentor. btw i also got a e-starter after my funny died. its still half done. i think i'll save it till i get a brushless config.

I finally flew the slow stick with almost the same configuration with you. The prop you should use with a 350C should be 10x47 which does not make the plane fly too fast.

You might really wanna consider investing in another slowstick (The metal frame one, oh you get another motor for it get the same one just in case you blow one) it will help alot.

And one advise i can give you... don't keep the plane near to the ground when you fly the first time (If no one is guiding you) run the throttle to full let it climb slowly... and when its high in the sky you'll start doing things you can't imagine...

Have fun dude!

[yvesgoh]

interested to trade for a New in box tunder tiger super cub? Great beginner plane... easy to fix and fly...

[xwing]

Actually... i was wonder if there was a like FAQ thread in here for us newbies... so many question and i really don't know who to ask... things like..

Whats elevon mixing?
How to calculate the watts of the motor ... and such...

food for thoughts...

[Artyspec]

Actually... i was wonder if there was a like FAQ thread in here for us newbies... so many question and i really don't know who to ask... things like..

Whats elevon mixing?
How to calculate the watts of the motor ... and such...

food for thoughts...

Elevon mixing= ELEVator + ailerON.
For flying wings and stuff like interceptor which have only one wing so there is no elevator and the ailerons do both.
Please do not mix elevon up with ailevator. Ailevator is for big normal looking RC planes which need 2 servos for the elvator(1 for each half). So some of them like mixing each half of the elevator with the ailerons for faster roll rates.

Watt=Ampere X Voltage AKA P=CV

[freeman]

Hi,

welcome to the world of flying...E-starter is quite a good beginner plane if you didn't mod it to run on Brushless motor and 3 cell batt. All these will come when you are more comfortable and need more speed. As of now, just run the brushed motor will do. If possible, get a interface cable between your Tx and PC + a sim software so that you can fam yourself with the controls. Might save some repair time. After you are quite happy with sim, time to go out and fly with a group. There are several groups flying in Singapore during weekend. Depends on where you stay...you get join the group.
Flying is a group is very good for beginners cos before the flight, they will check your plane making sure it is balanced and all system go before you even launch the plane. Within the group, they will share infos and some infos are not found anywhere but by trial-and-error. Learn from people's mistake. All the best in your flying "career" and hope to see you around.

[wtp]

thanx for all the feedback,btw i just gone though the instruction maunal & dun really understand fixing the aileron,elevator/rudder hinges.all the others is quite straightforward.formally i play r/c cars & not really familiar wif planes building.any tips for building the e-starter so tat it flies well?

[kenshinz]

There's another thread on modding the estarter so that it flies well (and survive better, do a search for it)

IMO, estarter need alot of work, both in building and modding so that it flies well. There's a review here, I think they mentioned something abt the hinges, maybe you can get a better idea here:

http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4401

[Artyspec]

Here is what i did:
1)Reinforce tail section
2)Add balsa to reinforce the steerable tail wheel plastic mount
3)Scrap the screw on wings idea, use rubber bands. Much safer.(what was in GWS's mind when the thought about screwing into a nut embedded in foam which holds the whole plane up???)
4)You can scap the 2 sticks which hold the wing if u like.(too much of a hassle and hardly makes a difference.
5)Replace bamboo stick in wing with 3mm cf rod. Extend the wing spar groove by cutting more foam on each side so that ur cf rod can reach further to the sides than a stock set up.
6)Do not depend on the battery hatch to hold ur battery in. It wont.
7)Reinforce the stick mount. It will screw up the foam behind in ONE crash. Use epoxy and not GWS glue for gluing the stick in fuse and the 2 sides of fuse together.

Hinging is rly easy. Juz cut a slot at the same place on both the control surface and the wing/elevator/rudder and use the piece of "paper" to hinge. Hinge by applying GWS glue on the paper and sliding it in to the slot u cut. A neat suggestion is to poke a hole using a round headed pin/T-pin in the middle of the hinge tape before hinging. This will prevent one side from having more hinge tape then the other. After hinging u can pull out the needle.

Cheers. Happy building.

[xwing]

while we're at this... is there any recommendation for a brushless motor for 2S lipo? the 350C hardly is able to hover...

[alamin2]

erm.. its not meant to hover ... wanna hover go use brushless ... the stock motor usually aint meant to handle stress

[freeman]

while we're at this... is there any recommendation for a brushless motor for 2S lipo? the 350C hardly is able to hover...

For hovering, depending on the weight of the plane, you are looking at motors that rated about 1000KV and able to spin up to about 10 inch prop. If you have a higher rating motor, one of the ways is to geared the motor. For the detailed calculation, you seek advice from the experts in the forum...They might give you a table to refer to or a formula to work out the size of the motor you need to hover...

Cheers

Happy Flying.

[xwing]

Is higher KV better or lower KV better? actually... what does KV mean? i heard there's a "turbo" version of the 370 motor... is that better?