Engine Problem.. for Savage..

[Awallisk]

Engine Trouble..

Hi guys,

I desperately need you expertise. Everytime i start the Savage it will ram up and all wheel start moving and when i press the brake the engine dies. I thought the clutch shoe might be a problem. Maybe it to tight. So redo it and take it out and now it can move freely with less friction but it still the same. Any idea..

[sspp]

Engine Trouble..

Hi guys,

I desperately need you expertise. Everytime i start the Savage it will ram up and all wheel start moving and when i press the brake the engine dies. I thought the clutch shoe might be a problem. Maybe it to tight. So redo it and take it out and now it can move freely with less friction but it still the same. Any idea..

your needle adjustment and the linkage adjustment is wrong.

1. Your Idle, low, high needle may be set too lean. resulting in this high rev in the car. If you think that the car is running at an ok temperature, check the idle, it may be set so high that its revving and not idling.

2. Your linkage adjustment is wrong. Take out your filter and look at the lobang at neutral. brake the truck and see if the lobang closes. it should not close. when it close, the idling goes very low and the engine dies. Try redoing the linkage. Your throttle cannot be moving when you brake, only your brake moves

[sspp]

Another thing about the high rev. Again your linkage can be wrong and its pulling the throttle at idling resulting in the high rev

[Awallisk]

your needle adjustment and the linkage adjustment is wrong.

1. Your Idle, low, high needle may be set too lean. resulting in this high rev in the car. If you think that the car is running at an ok temperature, check the idle, it may be set so high that its revving and not idling.

2. Your linkage adjustment is wrong. Take out your filter and look at the lobang at neutral. brake the truck and see if the lobang closes. it should not close. when it close, the idling goes very low and the engine dies. Try redoing the linkage. Your throttle cannot be moving when you brake, only your brake moves

1. Hmmm... but it factory setting? maybe the factory set it wrong.. could it be?

2. okay will check that. how about the pinion gear. How freely should it move?

[sspp]

1. Hmmm... but it factory setting? maybe the factory set it wrong.. could it be?

2. okay will check that. how about the pinion gear. How freely should it move?

1. Factory or not. things will 'run' mah. You mean from factory till now you never touch the linkage/needles? remember leh, a touring car setting can run, dun talk about a bashed around truck man

2. pinion should be able to turn freely without biting onto the flywheel. meaning when you turn the pinion, it should not be trying to turn the flywheel at the same time. Remember, its flywheel that turns the gears, not the other way round.

[Awallisk]

1. Factory or not. things will 'run' mah. You mean from factory till now you never touch the linkage/needles? remember leh, a touring car setting can run, dun talk about a bashed around truck man

2. pinion should be able to turn freely without biting onto the flywheel. meaning when you turn the pinion, it should not be trying to turn the flywheel at the same time. Remember, its flywheel that turns the gears, not the other way round.

1.I just setup the truck and the engine keep revving. I what you say it could be the linkage and the needles. So need to check it.

2. Well i manage to get the pinion to turn freely without biting onto the flywheel. but the pinion shouldn't be too lose right? like you can spin the pinion with just swipe on the pinion? As mine can turn freely but i'm unable to spin the pinion gear.

I know it might sound stupid asking this question but i'm still new to nitro..

[sspp]

1.I just setup the truck and the engine keep revving. I what you say it could be the linkage and the needles. So need to check it.

2. Well i manage to get the pinion to turn freely without biting onto the flywheel. but the pinion shouldn't be too lose right? like you can spin the pinion with just swipe on the pinion? As mine can turn freely but i'm unable to spin the pinion gear.

I know it might sound stupid asking this question but i'm still new to nitro..

I dun understand, you say you can turn bit pinion not spinning?

[Awallisk]

[QUOTE=sspp]I dun understand, you say you can turn bit pinion not spinning?[/QUOTE

I feel i setup the engine proper so most probably will check on the needle and the linkage..

[sspp]

[QUOTE=Awallisk]

I dun understand, you say you can turn bit pinion not spinning?[/QUOTE

I feel i setup the engine proper so most probably will check on the needle and the linkage..

if you are talking abt the clutch bell, it has to turn freely. look at the linkage. normally, stock standard engine should be able to start. So the savage is totally new?

[Awallisk]

[QUOTE=sspp]

if you are talking abt the clutch bell, it has to turn freely. look at the linkage. normally, stock standard engine should be able to start. So the savage is totally new?

Yeah i'm talking about the clutch bell. Yeah it able to start and trying to run in the engine but it keep revving. So need to check on the linkage and the needle as you say. Yup the savage is totally new.

[sspp]

[QUOTE=Awallisk]

Yeah i'm talking about the clutch bell. Yeah it able to start and trying to run in the engine but it keep revving. So need to check on the linkage and the needle as you say. Yup the savage is totally new.

then forget the needles, look at the linkage

[stuka]

kepo kepo a bit... ...if engine is idling low and steady but clutch bell is reviving, it means clutch is already engaged, you may wana check if the clutch spring is too loose/soft, try tightening it.

[Awallisk]

kepo kepo a bit... ...if engine is idling low and steady but clutch bell is reviving, it means clutch is already engaged, you may wana check if the clutch spring is too loose/soft, try tightening it.

hi Stuka,

so the clutch bell is revving only if the clutch spring is too loose huh?

[stuka]

hi Stuka,

so the clutch bell is revving only if the clutch spring is too loose huh?

There is a pair of clutch shoes held together by a spring inside the clutch bell, this is the usual design, unless yours is using a lever type of engagement, in either case, there is a tension spring which can usually be tighten or loosen for the purpose of adjusting the time of clutch engagement. If your clutch bell is rotating when the engine is idling, this means the clutch shoes has already engaged i.e. early engagement, you can tighten the spring to delay the engagment, thus stop it from rotating during idling. Another way is to set engine to idle at lower rpm, but there is a limit how low it can go.

When to engage the clutch depends on your style of driving, you can play with the tension and engine rpm and see what you like.

[mechplas]

I got a feeling the problem could be the idle setting.

But then again, I was thinking if the direction of the shoes are installed reverse, could that be the symtom?



Oh, the screw settings for both the main and idle can be reset if you follow the manual description.