humblebee

[Art]

Went to rotor today and saw huge stacks of the humblebee...another feda lookalike....seeling for about $120++ kit only or $320++ complete with radio...anybody checked that out???



Walter did a demo flight...and the man flew it out of the block...did a turn near the trees and landed back...all wothout doing tracking and such...completely stock and out of the box...save for the lipos he used...gawd!!!

[Super-Hornet]

Hi Arthur Lee

I think SHS being selling it for the past 1 or 2 months ago. If u pay a closer look, u will notice its main gear is DAMN BIG! I think the base also longer than Dragonfly. The head I think like those Aerohawk or Cupid design.

Super-Hornet

[MicroHeli-Nut]

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They still have like at least 15 boxes of Cupid sets add together from Fu Lu Shou and Head Office, and they are competing with through the Humble Bee? Then what are they goung to do with the Cupid?


Art,
I've seen both up close and personal and have not seen either fly. Walter can pretty much fly a doorknob or a plate of Hokkien Mee lar..... The other time, PK was flying the GWS dragonfly without even trimming the rudder properly... Actually all these micro FP helis no need to mod one.... only thing you have to do is fly them on lipos. Heck, the Ikarus Piccolo 2004 also not so shiok.


The Humble Bee has a longer can tail motor, and it's frame is the best already.... no need to mod one.... Super stiff and holey.

The main gear, i think is only a bit bigger. And it's head is a fusion between the Aerohawk design and the Feda design....


The Cupid on the other hand comes with a ball in swash..

But than i think rotor will win viz a viz the same product compared to SHS Now we all know what the reason is, Is it not?

[jerahteo]

humblebee ???

I think Arthur Lee may have got the name mix up with humblebee. I went to Rotor at Rochor last week the new Elect Heli which they are bringing in was actually a ESky HoneyBee. The one which I bought from Singapre Hobby. The Shop owner Mr Lee show me the the new Elect Heli which they are going to carry. It is also an improved version from what I have and cheaper by $30. The improvement is in the main blade. I love this heli its my first elect heli which I bought. However as a new flyer I am still not very good and this fellow tail blade is very brittle and break easily for a new flyer like me. I did some modification to the tail blade by tie the tail blade to a separate socket with rubber band so that there will be some room when the blade hit something hard. The gyro, speed control, receiver is all in one black box. The body frame work is also weak especially at the area where the boom connects the body frame work. So after I learn my lesson I epoxy a piece of blasa wood to strengthen the body. All these problem is to create spare parts sales.

There is now one problem which I face that is the tail motor seem to burn out easily. Anybody encounter this problem before.
Any good tail motor to recommend, beside brushless motor. ESky tail motor is slightly longer in length I noticed.

The spare parts will also be available for the ESky HoneyBee in Rochor Rotor by 16th June 2004

[Art]

hmm,...I am very sure it's a humblebee....perhaps you wanna double check on that?!

[mechplas]

Yep...its Humble Bee

Humble Bee Link to Rotor

[Super-Hornet]

Hi jerahteo

It is very very common for micro heli with tail motor to die fast. It is because they have to be small and lightweight. Due to they are small, the brushes also very small. The tail motor in theory (even in Hornet II) spin 4 times faster than the main rotor. With that, the tail motor work very hard to achieve proper control. That is why they die off very fast. That is the part that most of us started to modify first and also the most part that recommend to keep spare parts.

As for recommendation motor for tail... well, GWS CN12-RXC is one of them. If u go down to Jet Hobby, u can find another motor that is similar to CN12-RXC but almost half of the lenght. That one claim to be carbon brushes.
U can try that one also.

Super-Hornet

[Super-Hornet]

Yup... I think Humble Bee and HoneyBee is the same..or maybe different revision (Like GWS Dragonfly 2003 and Dragonfly 2004)

Super-Hornet

[jerahteo]

Heli Beeeees

Originally posted by Super-Hornet
Hi jerahteo

It is very very common for micro heli with tail motor to die fast. It is because they have to be small and lightweight. Due to they are small, the brushes also very small. The tail motor in theory (even in Hornet II) spin 4 times faster than the main rotor. With that, the tail motor work very hard to achieve proper control. That is why they die off very fast. That is the part that most of us started to modify first and also the most part that recommend to keep spare parts.

As for recommendation motor for tail... well, GWS CN12-RXC is one of them. If u go down to Jet Hobby, u can find another motor that is similar to CN12-RXC but almost half of the lenght. That one claim to be carbon brushes.
U can try that one also.

Super-Hornet

Thanks for all the repy, Can I asked what is the good think about GWS CN12-RXC and CN12-RXC. I thought if it is half length than efficiecy lower ?

[Super-Hornet]

CN12-RXC is a model naming for GWS product. There are sooo many manufacturer producing the similar product. Heck.... I don't believe GWS produce their own motor also. They get OEM from other company.

Anyway... Yeah u are right... In theory the bigger the better. Bigger size will most likely give u more torque but also high current consumption also. I do not know how does it (The shorter one) perform because I didn't try it before... At least I know there is an alternative just in case u can't find any.

The best solution will still be brushless motor or direct shaft drive from the main motor.

Super-Hornet

[Brandon Chng]

wow! its incredible that prices of micro heli have dropped so fast in such a short time! 6months ago when i decided to get a feda, i remember glenn telling me he got his stock set up with normal nimh batts for $600. now walter is selling his setup with a skysport 4 lookalike for only $320...

[jerahteo]

WOW

I tell you you will love this bird, its performance is just profound ! China really kick those US Bird out of the ring with good price and performance.

[MicroHeli-Nut]

To prolong the life of your tail motor, please try not to knock its brians [oops it's brains] out too badly... the brushes and comm are preetty dang freeking' small. I crush one commutator on a tail motor just by holding it in my fingertips last time [ nope, i'm not Heracles ]

And keep the tail motors, u'll find a use for them one day. i know i did.

[jerahteo]

Tail Motor

I remember sometime ago I had tried to replace the original tail motor of my ESky heli with a shorter version of tail motor which was used for the cupid but it did not work out. It just don;t have the power to main the position and it just keep going round and round. I originally bought the tail motor from Singapore Hobby and its real expensive come to about $19++. Thanks to Rotor now I have a alternate source to buy spare which bring the price of the tail motor down to $11++. I had check out its price from the web site it really appear to be so much cheaper compare to Singapore Hobby.

Have you ever try to swop carbon brush with another motor. That is what I do when my original one burn out. It will allow me to continue to fly for a period of time before I totally replace the whole motor.

I also added to carbon rod that extend from the skid to the tail boom. I notice It does reduce initial vibration when I just start to throttle up. At low speed the vibration tend to be quite noticeable.
Has anybody experience this initial vibration problem.

What I love about ESky is that it has got huge main gear but the bad thing is the the main motor pinion is a brass material which easily wear out the main gear which appear to be plastic or mix carbon and plastic. Does it make it very noisy when it wear out??? I tried to tighten the main motor but does not seems to help so I suspect its the main gear wear off which cause the noisy sound when I throttle up.

[Brandon Chng]

can check how tight your motor pinion is pressing against the main gear. shouldn't be too tight or else will have friction and wear. what i learnt last time was to place a piece of paer in between the gears, put them together and tighten the motor mount.