caliber 30?

[waycool]

what do you guys think about the kyosho caliber 30? jh sells at $390 no engine but with muffler. 30 size engine probably at $200.
l like the belt driven engine to main gear. suppose to be quieter.
just sick of waiting for a windless day to fly feda/hornet in park.
also what would l need to start in nitro? and costs?

[AirTrekker]

I fly a Hirobo EVO which is a great heli and would recommend it wholeheartedly.

If you are looking for an "inexpensive" (is there such a thing ?!? ) way to get into nitro's I would suggest the TT Raptor from Rotor Hobby. Lots of Raptor flyers around so help is never too far away.

Also, I've read several posts on RunRyder where the entry level Kyosho helis are considered 'out of date'. So this is something to consider as well.

[MicroHeli-Nut]

I'd have to disagree, AirTrekker, It's only said to be out of date. Waycool, I've once had my eye on the calibre, you can't go wrong with that. By the way, let me have u know that the person who was responsible for the design of the current TT raptors is the same designer for the Calibre 30! I did my back ground research when i tot i was going to nitro last year. U can't go wron with that. and with your experience in micro heli, i tell u flying nitro's a synch, with the same expo, settings...

I've seen both fly and the hirobo 50s.... I'd say for the speed and response, u'll be more happy getting a 50 size right from the start. The 30s really like on the zoom-zoom factor....

[waycool]

yeah, i've seen bigger birds fly and tried one of my friends for figure 8s. way much easier.... I've read about the tt raptors and caliber 30. yeah. same rock solid designer. read at jason.net. but 50s a little too big for park maybe i'll sneak into a schools' football field on sundays!
I like the caliber for the belt that drives the main gear from the engine... suppose to be quieter. but haven't seen any caliber fly in real life so, can't confirm. plus only 390. wah hard to resists considering i "pained" $320 for a hornet.

[Jcho]

Another plus on Caliber 30 is that it has CCPM see link Caliber 30

Not sure if Raptor 30 has it? Raptor 30 has cheaper parts for sure. So it still up to each individual.


Cheers

[MicroHeli-Nut]

Yar man, waycool. Okay the parts prices so far, i think it's pretty okay. And this IS Singapore... so it won't be too exhorbitant if not they'll drive the little no, of customers away... I checked, it's alrite. It's actually the same price. I was watching it fly when i joined the jethobby people, with the YS muffler (for power) it makes the same amount of ( by ear) as the raptor 30s... i bet with the stock muffler it'll be quieter. But ya know, nitro is still nitro... And i've seen both birds up close. Personally i like the Calibre for its CCPM mechanics and its dual fligt mode capable blade arrangement. I like the raptor for its emphasis on durable, robust design. U want quiet? Go Eco 8....

[jameswilliam]

Sorry guyz! But before anything going in too deep let's look back again. Yes! Kyosho designer for calibre 30 is the same for TT Raptor( Same Person ). But eyeing on something that if it is just that you like it is something elas. Parts is the most isseu if you are going to ask me. And TT Raptor have most of the parts you can find.( Cheaper too ) As for Kyosho Caliber 30 you can get the parts too BUT! are you willing to puy so much on a hobby first?

WAYCOOL from the post you seem to be flying nitro heli before right then you should know, If you got into a crash how much you are willing to puy. What I can tell you is choose the model that can be upgraded in time go by. And not something that because of you like this model or that model. Oh......Ya.....! and if you face any problems on the heli that most of them got.( Like TT Raptor ) Things will be much more EZ to get into hand.

As for 30 or 50 size bird. Is all up to you how much you want to spent on the bird itself. 30 is good for beginner. 50 size even better because it this more stable on flight and more upgraded options to choose. So my frez now do you have any idae already?

Jameswilliam

[Brandon Chng]

hi there, i've seen many ppl fly the caliber at the potong pasir club(almost caliber exclusive). the quality of that machine is really really good. i like the tail control mechanics, nice quality. the rotor head and tail are really really smooth too. it will do mechanical or eCCPM mixing. however i've seen some problems with the servo tray...something about it being lose and hard to cure. you might also want to cut the canopy as it does not allow easy refueling. out of date? no way... it is a great heli. parts at jethobby, quite good.

alternative:get a rappy 50 for the same price and come burn up the sky

[jameswilliam]

Question to Brandon,
If the kyosho Caliber 30 is so good why? I don't see most of the flyer in singapore had it. Your so many ppl at Potong pasir club is just afew not most of heli flyers. Why Jet-Hobby they can fly so good and so well? Because they carry this produrt and need sale for that. This is a sale trick to bring some income to the shop.( Don't get fool on this ) It always let ppl think OH! the heli is flying so smooth and quite. If the set-up is good of coz the machine will be good AiYo.......

Jameswilliam

[Brandon Chng]

sorry for my ignorence... but i've its really quite a good machine... reason why no one flew is because the price has been quite steep until the past 2months. before that, i enquired for the price, it was almost 700 with engine, and for a 30size, it was better to go for a rappy 50 already. i once considered that heli, cos i liked the way the tail was controlled. true its good if setup properly, all helis also will be good. but not to say the caliber is bad. for the 4months i was saving up, i kept going to the potong pasir field, checking out the mechanics and watching three guys flying hard 3d with it stock(one of them is the guy who flew his feda like a nitro last time at potong pasir cc, can't remember his name)

i would still recommend the raptor, as parts and upgrades easily available, and most of all, its cheap(compared to others). but since now the caliber is almost of the same price with a OS engine(590), compared to a raptor 30 with a TT engine(i bought 550), they more or less are on the same level. i like the caliber mechanics more, but what stopped me was the steep price at that time, lack of parts(at that time jethobby haven't open so toykar was the only shop, and they sell very ex) and...the ugly canopy...

[jameswilliam]

Lucky you never full into the sales trap

Jameswilliam

[Brandon Chng]

haha, at least to say ah, jethobby ppl still ok, not like shs or ntc or ahem ahem. william, you going fly tmr? Jazallo? Han solo?

[jameswilliam]

If you really want to know. I had not seen Han solo( The Person ). Jazallo bro yes I seen him before very nice family man and a good father too. As for waycool if you really like the Kyosho caliber 30 pls do a research on it and see what's the flyer in singapore think of this bird. Parts is the isseu, Can you get them and how much you puy plus waiting time for the stock to come?( Some shop don't carry most Kyosho stock and ordering takes 2-3 weeks ) GOOD LUCKY!

Jameswilliam

[Kang]

waycool, if you are talking about 30 size, then the Shuttle series, R30V2 or Caliber 30 perform more or less the same. All those bird can do 3Ds when setted up correctly. The most important is that the set up is done correctly. I have seen a lot of begineers complaining about their bird being not stable, vibrates, etc. just because the set up is not done properly. Be sure to get the help from experience pilots to help you.

Look at your pocket, chose a bird that has good part support and the price/parts prices are comfortable for you.

I personlly found Raptor is a good bird to start with but hate the look. Hirobo Series is top of the line for Japanese Brand and believe me, the EVO parts is not much different from Raptors' if you know where to buy.

Caliber 30 is quiet due to the belt drive design but be it Jet Hobby or ToyKar don't have good parts support.

All stock mufflers that come with the 30 kits have limited performance and are quite loud. You would want to change to Hatori or something like that.

Don't invest too much on the upgrade parts for a 30 size bird, instead invest your money on good electronics like Radio, Gryo and Servos that can take you to the bigger birds next time.

However, my bottom line is that if you are really interested in this hobby, go straight to a 50 size bird like R50V2 or EVO. They can take you a long way into the hobby. No need to dump your 30 bird and spend more money next time to buy a bigger bird.

Just remember, Walter Lee is still flying a 50 size bird now. What does that tells you??



Just my 2 cents.

Kang

[MicroHeli-Nut]

Couldn't have said it better.

Waycool, u had a hornet issiT?