RC Kite Toy

[papasmurf]

Wow, these chinese companies are fast and "cheap"!! Anything they can make money they will go right at it....And they actually copied the Pro III exactly from GFK and selling it so cheap. Wonder if they can fly well and wonder what is their capability. I have heard and seen many cases of people buying these cheap chinese "kites" because they are really cheap but in the end cannot fly properly. Ended up spending more money and have to buy the original kites from GFK...haha!!

Nothing wrong with the buyers because who doesn't want to get cheap but good products. I would do the same. Luckily for me, like I've mentioned earlier of what I had heard and seen cases of people burning themselves by getting these cheap, poor quality product, I will only spend on good & original kites. I will always ask myself whether is the money well spent by getting cheaper but lousy goods. Likely not...

The choice is still up to the individuals. Just for info here... don't bang your head against the wall because of a moment of feeling cheap. Oops..

[papasmurf]

Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention that this company actually "stolen" video clips from GFK and post on their own website claiming or implying they own the kites being flown in those video. Funny thing is that in one of the video clips used, has the owner/creator of these RC Kites featured on Ch 8.

By the way, in case for those who didn't know, these RC Kites are originated from Singapore since 2001. Something that I am always proud to tell my overseas friends after I learnt about it 4 months ago.

[blurchaoz]

Wow, these chinese companies are fast and "cheap"!! Anything they can make money they will go right at it....And they actually copied the Pro III exactly from GFK and selling it so cheap. Wonder if they can fly well and wonder what is their capability. I have heard and seen many cases of people buying these cheap chinese "kites" because they are really cheap but in the end cannot fly properly. Ended up spending more money and have to buy the original kites from GFK...haha!!

Nothing wrong with the buyers because who doesn't want to get cheap but good products. I would do the same. Luckily for me, like I've mentioned earlier of what I had heard and seen cases of people burning themselves by getting these cheap, poor quality product, I will only spend on good & original kites. I will always ask myself whether is the money well spent by getting cheaper but lousy goods. Likely not...

The choice is still up to the individuals. Just for info here... don't bang your head against the wall because of a moment of feeling cheap. Oops..

its cheap why not buy it?? its flyable who say china quality most of our electronics are mass produce in china.. why worry? cheap dosent mean not good and expensive dosent mean good. if you want to spent on something original then get it from WILD RC who is the master mind of all rc kite.
my advise to those who are getting this kit from china.
get the dimension of this RC kite before you maiden it. happens that you crash it and cant recover it to its original shape. built a new RC kite with the Dimension that you already have. building a RC kite is not a difficult process.

*sorry for hijacking this post. but for me its a superb deal.

[speeder]

i have seen those kites..

can say that they are very well built for the price..

actually the difference is only in the ripstock that they use.otherwise there isn't much of a difference.

if want to compare ...just buy a set of the china kite and put on the original wild rc ripstock and you will get a good kite at a lot better price!(under $200)

[tootyful]

Why do I get a feeling that papasmurf is affiliated to GFK? lol, I scanned through his previous post, and lo behold! I see quite alot of GFK in his post. But I might be wrong though.

Anyway yes, it doesn't mean cheap can't be gd wad..

[papasmurf]

I can agree to certain things that you guys said. If you really have gone through what I have written, you will also know that I was introduced to flying RC kites through GFK, before I have no prior experience flying anything. Naturely, I speak well of people who gave me the right stuff from the start. Saving me from wasting money unnecessarily. Anyway, there is no point for us to argue about such things here. For those who are more advanturous than myself can definitely buy it and try.

True, cheap doesn't mean no good. For those who want cheaper stuff and serve the similar purpose, please by all means do what you want. Its like buying a pair of $5.90 "copied" Crocs shoes as compared to buying a pair of original Crocs at $59.99. It is just a matter of status and class. Which side you belong. Peace!!

[papasmurf]

Oh, by the way, please read this in the forum that I have posted before and tell us all if such acts by this China company who copied GFK product is right?

Please follow this thread:
Team daddyHOBBY - Radio Control > daddyHOBBY R/C forum > News and Announcements > rc kite is on tc

You will see some stolen video clips!!! I felt disgusted by such low acts. So why do I speak up for GFK? Here's one reason, if you guys felt I am siding GFK. I will not forget who brought me into the RC flying hobby world. And also it was through the flyers from GFK that I got to know about Daddy Hobby Forum - a great place for Singaporeans to share about Radio Control stuff and knowledge.

I just hope that we Singaporeans can support our own fellow Singaporeans products!! Especially National Day is round the corner... Happy 41st Birthday, Singapore!!

[plug&fly]

hey

Buying cheap doesn't make one cheap, ok. It just make more sense. I am all for supporting our fellow Singaporeans but if he charges 4 times more I have to think again about buying. He should think abt us too. Not all of us can fork out $200 for a few carbon rods and a piece of ripstop or pay three times the price for materials for "workmanship". Maybe you Shenton way types can do it but me tampines type cannot.

[ace_viper]

Wow... alot of arguments... lolx...
Mmm this china is indeed very fast... seems a good deal for the kite..
but i wonder wat service do i get out of it? or just a buy n bye thingy...

well tootyful, speeder and blurchaoz i agree who doesont want cheap stuff...
but wat if i cant fly who is gonna provide the service to teach me how to fly this thing?
Oh ya, blurchaoz most product do come from or produce in china.. but its depends the person who sits up there operating it n i dont see Mc CLaren or Harley assembled in china? also look at the service provided or the group using the service..
well plug&fly i do agree to wat u say in buying cheap need not feel cheap, but wats cheap? issit cheap or cheat? look ard at the hobby shop neither is cheap its depends on the things or equipment compared specially the product within (equipment used e.g. Futaba, JR or Air Tronics)...although there r alot of cars but lambo, Porsh vs nissan, honda or the best compar lexus n camry same company but y? if u can get which want u want n which service provider is better?this is wat we got to ask ourself....

Oh and papasmurf i do agree wit them that cheap stuff may not necessary be of low quality except i prefer to look at the service provided is . And i have seen the clips, these ppl or china company have to do some soul searching saying they r the first now. Where there r forums in here, where we r talking abt it yrs back. oh and the clip of channel 8 wit our actor darren lim cant be their actor rite.... they can really go to these extend wonder can else they cant do..... lolx.... really got to look seriously on their produt cos , they post these clips saying they r teh first... or is there a channel 8 set up by the chinas media????? but definately the actor is not a clone...
Well have been to the kite shops they have diff setup and service attitude are all very different...
I have only to add why get something cheap n end up paying more and getting in troubles asking ppl to teach or help in repairs cost??.. might as well get those specialize in the product, definately they have and the service they provide rite?

[HZM]

This thread had been splitted from a buying thread from market place. Please kindly keep comment and non purchase discussion off market place.

Thanks

Mike

[Adrianli]

Please go ahead n outcast China copies, if possible, take up a law suit against them. That is if u feel u r right.

Did GFK actually applied for copyrights or patents? If not whatz stopping others for "using" the design.

Simple example, the pen we normally use. Does the inventor had sole rights to it???



In future or even now, we might be using or have been using products from China. China is the main produce of many many items.


For me, whichever stuff is cheap n usable, I'll go for it. From which country, I'm not bothered.

[Ghostfit]

By the way, in case for those who didn't know, these RC Kites are originated from Singapore since 2001. Something that I am always proud to tell my overseas friends after I learnt about it 4 months ago.

I'm very sorry, Papasmurf .....But I Totally disagree with you there !!!
Do not take this as a flame post, but the facts must be set right

Your post make it seems as if GFK was the original inventor of the RC kites ! This is totally not true ! ....the original inventor was a nice American gentleman by the name of Mr Dan Kriegh and the "Kites" were called IFOs

Just like you, it irks me when someone steals a design and copies it for profit but it's a totally different thing when they start claiming the design as their own ! I am not against the folks at GFK, I do not see them making any claims that they ARE the original inventor of the IFO.

Bet you wouldn't be so proud when one of your more knowlegable overseas friend remarks to you that they were already flying it back in the 1999-2000 !

Let's not be too proud of something that can be potential shameful !

[ace_viper]

Please go ahead n outcast China copies, if possible, take up a law suit against them. That is if u feel u r right.

Did GFK actually applied for copyrights or patents? If not whatz stopping others for "using" the design.

Simple example, the pen we normally use. Does the inventor had sole rights to it???



In future or even now, we might be using or have been using products from China. China is the main produce of many many items.


For me, whichever stuff is cheap n usable, I'll go for it. From which country, I'm not bothered.

thx mike... sure

Adrianli i think there is a misunderstanding.. patent ruling is that u can use but u got to pay for the use of the product or idea n there is also a life span for the patent...

Not sure if GFK has the patent,but its abt respecting the inventor ir innovator n their creation, which they have created. it give u, me n everyone the fun or convience using them.

Well mike has deleted the last msg, and example is the innovation of the pull off taps on the cans we drink, there is paten n these company has respected the inventor n innovator who actually redesign for enviroment conservation and not littering the enviroment, by asking them on the use requiement

I dont outcast anyone or anything, china produce things but its the main company and management who has moved their production line there.

I mainly look at the quality control problems, its not only u. if i were to choose. i would prefer cheap n good things.

U have also stated that, cheap n usuable, so its the quality. wat if u buy something cheap,but no service n not sure if its useable wat would u feel?

Being netural i have been to alot of hobby shops, country. its abt product quality and service, no one would wanna spend n throw or keep paying for the repair n not able to use it.. specially in this hobby enviroment ...

so cheers, its just info, we r here writting things which will help everyone n have fun. hobby itself is a big community n family...

most impt is papasmurf has show us the clips which i m surprise that the china company used and declare its theirs n they r the first.
1) its singapore n its location they have use .....
2) its a singapore programme n artise they use...
How do u feel? Its like your work is not acknowledge and worst of all your superior is praise that he has done well... where international everyone know is ur idea n everyone is helping out to release...

They have infringe into the media copyrites n TM... Thats wat i m pretty upsad abt...if they do their own clips well cheers.. but u can check it out...

[ace_viper]

Mike thx....

[tootyful]

papasmurf, what exactly are you trying to say here?

first off, you said this,

"I have heard and seen many cases of people buying these cheap chinese "kites" because they are really cheap but in the end cannot fly properly."

So where and when did you see such kites not being able to fly properly? Mind pointing me to owners of these kites so I can seek advice from people who have had first hand experience? I'm thinking of getting one.

And you kept stressing that it's our choice and that you are not against us purchasing ifos from china.

Yet, at the same time, you're constantly putting down kites from China and praising the kites from gfk to the skies. Also, I take issue with this phrase "It is just a matter of status and class. Which side you belong."

What exactly is your point in these few posts of yours? You are clearly discouraging us from these china ifos yet at the same time trying to be diplomatic by saying it's all our own choice.

True, it sucks to have your design copied and then passed off as their own. But, this doesn't mean the original will always be the best. Ask the Japanese. They were not always the most inventive poeple that they are now. I can give you a long story too on how the Japanese used to copy everything from the west in the past. China can and will be another Japan imho.

Actually, you might have carried yourself wrongly with your words. Certain phrases that you've used might have sounded snobbish and overbearing to others.